AndyGortonsMatches Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I almost choked on my cornflakes this morning when I saw the cheap handball penalty he gave Spurs yesterday. Compare that to the stonewaller he failed to award us at Goodison. Still bitter ??......oh yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 He needs to go on a course entitled, "Only give things you actually see." Professional my arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Can we only have a post about Michael Oliver when hes died please, thats the only time I wont get mad when opening it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I remember reading before the away game Graham Poll amongst many others going on about how our equaliser shouldn't have stood, thinking that this is creating a lot of pressure on the ref to not get anything wrong for Everton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I remember reading before the away game Graham Poll amongst many others going on about how our equaliser shouldn't have stood, thinking that this is creating a lot of pressure on the ref to not get anything wrong for Everton. Same here. Moyes did his best to manufacture that, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Same here. Moyes did his best to manufacture that, too.Rumour is that those mind-games made Fergie think he was the man to be his successor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Rumour is that those mind-games made Fergie think he was the man to be his successor. He did an embarrassing interview with 5live after the game, which I listened to on the drive home. He was ranting about how it should have been disallowed but wouldn't commit as to why; I think he ended up saying that, whilst he conceded that Bouzanis hadn't touched the ball, his waving his arms in the air had amounted to intent to handball and so it should have been ruled out. :censored:ing idiot. Saying that, his rant served it's purpose when Prem-sympothiser ref, Oliver, took 'control' of the replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 He did an embarrassing interview with 5live after the game, which I listened to on the drive home. He was ranting about how it should have been disallowed but wouldn't commit as to why; I think he ended up saying that, whilst he conceded that Bouzanis hadn't touched the ball, his waving his arms in the air had amounted to intent to handball and so it should have been ruled out. :censored:ing idiot. Saying that, his rant served it's purpose when Prem-sympothiser ref, Oliver, took 'control' of the replay. Yeah I know the interview, he made himself look very silly over it, but like you say job done for the replay as far as he was concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danoafc Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I see Steve bruce has been charged with misconduct by the FA over that incident. All he needs to do is get the footage of the one that incompetent/corrupt (delete as approapriate) little prick Oliver didn't give us against Everton on his iPad. Cast iron proof that Oliver is actually a weapons grade :censored:tard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) If I was Bruce I would tell the FA to stick their charge up their arse and refuse to pay any forthcoming fine. Failing that I'd kidnap Oliver and cut his :censored:ing eyes out. Note to self - don't post while :censored:ing livid about something entirely unrelated. Edited October 31, 2013 by garcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Bruce only said it was a joke decision. He was right, Oliver was wrong, yet Bruce is the one who has to explain himself by November 4th Why doesn't Oliver have to explain himself,and face a fine. The least he could do is hold his hands up and apologise, admitting he was wrong. It's all wrong, and nobody respects these incompetent referees or the ridiculous FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 (edited) Bruce only said it was a joke decision. He was right, Oliver was wrong, yet Bruce is the one who has to explain himself by November 4th Why doesn't Oliver have to explain himself,and face a fine. The least he could do is hold his hands up and apologise, admitting he was wrong. It's all wrong, and nobody respects these incompetent referees or the ridiculous FA Bruce also added: "I shouldn't say this and I might get fined, but would we have got it? I'm not so sure." thereby questioning the integrity of the referee - that is why he is in the dock. He knew what was coming...still does not make the decision any more correct though... Edited November 1, 2013 by TheBigDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Bruce also added: "I shouldn't say this and I might get fined, but would we have got it? I'm not so sure." thereby questioning the integrity of the referee - that is why he is in the dock. He knew what was coming...still does not make the decision any more correct though... Exactly right. He's correct though. You can apply the same to us and Everton - he had no qualms about awarding them a penalty after denying us one of the most stonewall pens you're ever likely to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Once again proving he is an excellent referee in the Blackburn vs City game at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I was listening to the commentary on BBC Manc before and the commentators mentioned that he and his linos we're getting quite a bit wrong in favour of a City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 In favour of Blackburn the ten minutes I watched... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamjonesyyoafc Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 missed a couple of handball's in the City box at 1-1. Milner and Negredo I think it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStationLatic Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Is it just me that is a bit sceptical when Prem refs are in charge of a cup tie involving a PL club versus a lower-league club. Not to suggest outright bias or brown paper envelopes etc but surely - and at least subconsciously - surely it's in the ref's interests to keep sweet with the PL side. They shouldn't be, but refs must be influenced when teams are playing the big guns and their outspoken managers. Along with the crowds, that could contribute to the big clubs seemingly always getting decisions etc Adrian Durham made this argument about the Special One and the subconscious dissuasion from invoking his frequent dramatic wrath. Back to us, Dowd did a good job at BP and correctly allowed Smith's goal. The only thing close to a foul was Croft backing into Howard, but Howard's theatrical cry and inability to even bother to jump outweighed this - refreshingly, the goalkeeper feeling a feather and asking for a free-kick didn't work. Sadly for the game as a viewing spectacle, I bet 9 out of 10 PL refs would have disallowed it. But as a result of that goal, he got stick from Moyes, stick from pissed off Everton fans, stick from the ref's union. Performance only remembered for the goal. Michael Oliver's performance included the convenient non-penalty/penalty favouritism that happened to go the side of the PL team and the home team in a noisy crowd, but worse was his constant whistle-blowing for every slight contact - notably, any that involved our players making a challenge. He completely ruined the game as a viewing spectacle, and as a cup tie, and in effect made it a non-contact training exercise that inevitably favoured the PL team. Yet I expect he got a pat on the back for a good performance 'to the book' by the ref's union... And there was little talk about Oliver after the game that ppl would listen to - as it was criticism from us, rather than a PL manager and club's fans... So he was left to continue his climb up the ladder and, guess what, is now often doing PL games - despite some atrocious decisions in big games last season. He was so lucky Leicester missed their 'penalty' and Watford took the headlines by going up the other end... Also our last trip to Anfield. Remember how soft their penalty was. Imagine the reaction if we had been given that penalty and drawn or won the game... Easier to give at one end..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Is it just me that is a bit sceptical when Prem refs are in charge of a cup tie involving a PL club versus a lower-league club. Not to suggest outright bias or brown paper envelopes etc but surely - and at least subconsciously - surely it's in the ref's interests to keep sweet with the PL side. They shouldn't be, but refs must be influenced when teams are playing the big guns and their outspoken managers. Along with the crowds, that could contribute to the big clubs seemingly always getting decisions etc Adrian Durham made this argument about the Special One and the subconscious dissuasion from invoking his frequent dramatic wrath. Back to us, Dowd did a good job at BP and correctly allowed Smith's goal. The only thing close to a foul was Croft backing into Howard, but Howard's theatrical cry and inability to even bother to jump outweighed this - refreshingly, the goalkeeper feeling a feather and asking for a free-kick didn't work. Sadly for the game as a viewing spectacle, I bet 9 out of 10 PL refs would have disallowed it. But as a result of that goal, he got stick from Moyes, stick from pissed off Everton fans, stick from the ref's union. Performance only remembered for the goal. Michael Oliver's performance included the convenient non-penalty/penalty favouritism that happened to go the side of the PL team and the home team in a noisy crowd, but worse was his constant whistle-blowing for every slight contact - notably, any that involved our players making a challenge. He completely ruined the game as a viewing spectacle, and as a cup tie, and in effect made it a non-contact training exercise that inevitably favoured the PL team. Yet I expect he got a pat on the back for a good performance 'to the book' by the ref's union... And there was little talk about Oliver after the game that ppl would listen to - as it was criticism from us, rather than a PL manager and club's fans... So he was left to continue his climb up the ladder and, guess what, is now often doing PL games - despite some atrocious decisions in big games last season. He was so lucky Leicester missed their 'penalty' and Watford took the headlines by going up the other end... Also our last trip to Anfield. Remember how soft their penalty was. Imagine the reaction if we had been given that penalty and drawn or won the game... Easier to give at one end..... Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piglinbland Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Not sticking up for the ref or anything, but is anyone on here willing (or fit enough) to go out and do it for what, a piffling 100 quid or so ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Prem refs get a lot more than £100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Not sticking up for the ref or anything, but is anyone on here willing (or fit enough) to go out and do it for what, a piffling 100 quid or so ???Surely you are having a laugh? They earn £70k -£85k per season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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