NewBlue Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Jeez no - and if we did get to Wembley it would be a huge embarrassment - don't think we'd even manage 8,000 fans for a final - that's how much apathy has set in. Or is it because it's a bull:censored: tournament nobody gives a toss about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Seems to me that the manager has always had a 'Northern Ireland' mentality, in as much as he sets the team up to keep it tight and hopefully nick a goal at the other end. The problem with that though is our strikers - and midfielders - are so inept going forward that once we've conceded there's next to no chance of us scoring twice. I don't blame the players too much though because as I've said before, they are playing to their level which is basically League 2. I do blame the manager though for the style of play. We spend far too much time doing pointless passing in our half or around the halfway line, usually ending in a misplaced pass or poor control before we get anywhere near the opposition penalty area. It's boring to watch as we have little or no goal threat! For gods sake get the ball in the box!! At least something might happen. Nothing is going to happen on the halfway line! Down to the managers tactics and instructions I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Seems to me that the manager has always had a 'Northern Ireland' mentality, in as much as he sets the team up to keep it tight and hopefully nick a goal at the other end. The problem with that though is our strikers - and midfielders - are so inept going forward that once we've conceded there's next to no chance of us scoring twice. I don't blame the players too much though because as I've said before, they are playing to their level which is basically League 2. I do blame the manager though for the style of play. We spend far too much time doing pointless passing in our half or around the halfway line, usually ending in a misplaced pass or poor control before we get anywhere near the opposition penalty area. It's boring to watch as we have little or no goal threat! For gods sake get the ball in the box!! At least something might happen. Nothing is going to happen on the halfway line! Down to the managers tactics and instructions I'd say. Read my Dover match comments on the Fleetwood thread, their manager has a totally different philosophy than SR, result 55 goals in the conference so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I couldn't agree more. If we were losing matches 5-4 or 4-3 at least we could say that we just need to tighten things up at the back, but this style of play and the woeful strikers and attacking midfielders mean that once we go one down it's pretty much over. Surely it's obvious to the manager and his assistant that we need to get the ball in the box much more often than we do! It's probably stating the obvious but as well as being the lowest scorers I would think that we also create the least number of chances to score. Wake up Robinson while you are still in a job!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I couldn't agree more. If we were losing matches 5-4 or 4-3 at least we could say that we just need to tighten things up at the back, but this style of play and the woeful strikers and attacking midfielders mean that once we go one down it's pretty much over. Surely it's obvious to the manager and his assistant that we need to get the ball in the box much more often than we do! It's probably stating the obvious but as well as being the lowest scorers I would think that we also create the least number of chances to score. Wake up Robinson while you are still in a job!! If they can find goalscorers why cant we, must be in a similar wage range? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/dover-athletic/top-scorers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 If they can find goalscorers why cant we, must be in a similar wage range? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/dover-athletic/top-scorers If you put Billy McKay at that level he'd probably be scoring 15+ a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 If you put Billy McKay at that level he'd probably be scoring 15+ a season. We will see when plays there, hopefully not with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) We will see when plays there, hopefully not with us. Isn't striking a combination of: confidence/ability/team? Edited January 1, 2017 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Isn't striking a combination of: confidence/ability/team? Our strikers take too long to manoeuvre into position then the chance is blocked or gone, as you say its a combination of things with this team, at another club they may well score goals, just as Adam Rooney did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 But then when the odd cross goes flashing across goal and the strikers aren't there to get on the end then that just shows that the strikers don't have the goalscoring instinct that any self respecting striker needs. Have a look at the goalscoring records of any of the forwards and McKay apart they are pretty abysmal, that's why they are playing where they are and why they were available to us at such a late stage in the pre-season. The midfielders don't help either, Flynn might have the odd goal in him, and maybe Winchester, but McLaughlin, Fane, Green and Croft won't score. In fact we'll be lucky to get 10 goals from midfield all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 A number of managers have now played defensive football, has this been a directive from above if not why has Corney not insisted the managers change the style of play and have a go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 A number of managers have now played defensive football, has this been a directive from above if not why has Corney not insisted the managers change the style of play and have a go? He's been taken in by coaching badges and "advice" from provional IRA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 A number of managers have now played defensive football, has this been a directive from above if not why has Corney not insisted the managers change the style of play and have a go? No, its the tip tap philosophy drummed into coaches today who can't think for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 We regularly make profits. Actually we dont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I bet Rochdale do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) We regularly make profits. Actually we dont but Rochdale do Edited January 2, 2017 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 There was a stat somewhere saying that we have around 18 chances before we score whilst other teams in the league are at around 9 chances. Awful strikers and midfielders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1000 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 There was a stat somewhere saying that we have around 18 chances before we score whilst other teams in the league are at around 9 chances. Awful strikers and midfielders. Are you sure about that? Was it not 18 games? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_lover Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Are you sure about that? Was it not 18 games? ? We probably only create 1 chance per game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1000 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 We probably only create 1 chance per game! That's being generous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 It was only in relation to the 'all arriving at once' aspect to accurately reflect the timeline. Clearly Corney was involved with the Jacobson signing. Forgot about Blackman. And I'm not at all sure why people think Colbeck was Jewish - never seen anything other than on here to that effect and the moment anybody Jewish has any form of relative sporting (or any other) success then it will at least be reported in the Jewish press. I don't know whether he was Jewish, I do know that he wasn't a professional footballer, he was diabolical he couldn't trap a bag of sand. Up there amongst the worst we've ever had IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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