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  1. Ronnie Rosenthal - meant to have been seen at BP just before 91/2 season
  2. I think he took over in goal once when keeper got injured in days before substitutes so he got the full 1 -11 !
  3. Before owtb but Imre Varadi was frequently linked with us. Wasn't Chris Kamara meant to be joining from Leeds but Royle pulled out at last moment ?
  4. Good wholehearted left wing half or winger - played a big part in that 62/3 promotion team of Johnstone, Lister Branagan etc
  5. Fixtures announced 21 June First League matches 5 August League Cup starts Week Beginning 7 August
  6. Staying up with a few decent results at the back end of the season. Looking forward to next season Thanks to Bristol and Stevie for running the whole show - great stuff.
  7. Brown, Cassidy and Wesolowski help keep Guiseley in National League with last minute draw.
  8. Cardiff City Rebranded: Bluebirds and Red Dragons Scott Johnson Pitch Publishing 2016 Softback £12.99 288pp What price does history have? Can the lure of success allow supporters to embrace a new identity for their club or are there principles of culture that are beyond a monetary and status value? In 2012 Cardiff City, the “Bluebirds”, announced that they would, in future, play in red. To compound the rebrand the club’s traditional symbol was to be replaced by a dragon. What followed is a story that can, in part, be identified with by fans of many teams. A new owner, not steeped in the heritage of the game let alone the club, divisions amongst supporters, a spending spree followed by economies, are each part of the wallpaper of football for many followers. For Cardiff supporters it’s been a turbulent few years with a rebrand of a rebrand, delivery to the land of plenty in the Premier League, immediate relegation and retrenchment but possibly in a better place that’s better than where they were before owner Vincent Tan arrived from Malaysia. Has it been worth it? Author Scott Johnson presents a variety of opinions from supporters, officials and journalists, as well as his own and it seems that the jury is still out. In 2010 Cardiff were in deep financial trouble when they were bought by a Malaysian consortium headed by Tan. As well as significant debts to creditors they were facing a winding-up order from HMRC. Tan sorted this out, avoiding administration, and appointed a new manager in 2011, Malky Mackay, to sort things out on the pitch. In his first season the club made the play-offs and the Carling Cup final. Money was promised, and made available, for a new push for promotion. Then what was a bombshell for many was dropped. From 2012/13, the club would play in red – and the dragon would appear as the new badge. Why? In Malaysia, the colour red is associated with success (blue with mourning), the dragon is a powerful symbol one shared with Wales (and appeared on Cardiff shirts when they won the FA Cup in 1927) and there was ambition to promote the club to a new Far East audience and market. Two surprising (for an outsider) aspects of the story emerge from the book. One is that Tan seems to have been advised by officials at the club that there wouldn’t be mass outrage from the supporters and the other is that many of those supporters accepted the change. The owner was intent on putting £100m into the club, paying debts but also investing in players, stadium expansion and training facilities. As he said “The Supporters Trust agreed…provided I put in money. We were promoted and no one said red was lousy. Red was great”. Certainly, there was opposition, vocal and not insignificant, but for many the trade-off of promotion and success was worth it. The season 2013/4 saw City in the Premier League but it was a short, one season, stay. Stepping back down saw Mackay sacked when there was no immediate bounce back– though it appears to be for a series of unpleasant emails as much as for anything else. When Ole Solskaer failed and Russell Slade was appointed to cut costs it appears both Tan and the continuing groups opposed to red drew breath. Talks began and, in January 2015, Cardiff returned to blue (and the bluebird became dominant on the badge with a small dragon below). Was it a victory for fan power? In part yes, although many would have been content to remain red if the team had been doing well. Tan remains owner, not throwing toys out of the pram, but has interests in other teams abroad now too. Turbulent and tortured years for a while but as the author says, it feels as though the club was beginning to heal, with a desire and resolve to fix the club. Let’s hope so.
  9. Readable perspective https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/apr/25/sheffield-united-resign-ched-evans-settling-scores?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
  10. Ian Evatt from chesterfield. Could be used as a punchbag by Gerrard
  11. Owls: Sheffield Wednesday Through the Modern Era Tom Whitworth Pitch Publishing, 2016, Softback £12.99, 285pp Sheffield always seems to be a city that, in footballing terms, is something of an underachiever. A populous, passionate community that has two teams that constantly seem attached to the phrases “big clubs” and “should be higher”. Yet it’s nearly 20 years since either actually played in the top flight. Wednesday were last there in 1999/2000 and this book is a story of the club’s ups and, more frequent, downs since the “almost glory” days of the early 90s when Sheridan, Waddle and Hirst brought pride and near success. In 1992/3 the Owls made four visits to Wembley in 48 days; an FA Cup semi, a final and replay, and the League Cup final. Yet the team was not tweaked by manager Trevor Francis in the summer – it was pretty much dismantled. A theme that was to run through the subsequent years, one of change and disruption, whether at managerial, Board or ownership level. The author does an excellent job of chronicling and analysing the saga of the intervening years, a narrative that is fascinating yet with a sense of “this isn’t going to end well”. For those of us watching from the perspective of supporting another club the turbulence (probably a euphemistic word) of appearing in the High Court, of suing its own supporters, at being at loggerheads with all four local MPs, winding-up orders, and relegation to the third tier, may have been schadenfreude or there but for the grace of God goes us. Either way, Wednesday were more often in the headlines because of things not going well rather than the opposite. Whitworth is thorough in his background sources in pulling together this well researched and written book. The extensive bibliography (including “legal cases”) demonstrates this and he uses the quotes from and interviews with players, managers, supporters, directors and others inside and outside the club in an entertaining, informed and informative manner. One aspect of his picture of the Owls that I particularly liked was how he put it in the context of Sheffield as a city and its attempts to revitalise and energise its future. Football clubs do not exist separate from their towns, they can make massive contributions to their development or, in some cases, stagnation. The message from recent years in Sheffield is that it’s certainly the former. For Wednesday seem to have risen again and there is genuine cause for optimism both on and off the pitch. As this review is written the Owls are in a play-off position so, whether next season or soon after, the next part of their story may well be a positive one. In the meantime, enjoy this very good book.
  12. Was at York v Wrexham on Monday. Crowd of 4091 of which nearly 900 were from Wrexham , impressive away following for a match that was pretty unimportant position wise for them. Seemed to want to bait York manager Gary Mills who was theirs earlier in the season. And their 3-1 victory was deserved. Terrible defending at both ends mind. York could be having a new derby next season if they don't claw away from bottom 4 - Harrogate Town
  13. There's nobody called Elder listed in any books that name Latics players (e.g. Latics Lads, Who's Who of Oldham Athletic, or Oldham Athletic A Complete Record)
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