welshgaz

No leaders, no one up for it. Meant to be in a relegation battle. Book stops with Wellens.

The personnel we have leans itself to 3-5-2, especially with no Gerrard.

Bryne is such a big player for us but unfortunately I've not seen him have a good game for some time, largely down to Wellens playing him out of position. Bryne is a no.10, nothing else so we need to play him there. Unfortunatly that would mean one up top and Doyle struggles by himself.

Trackside Clarence Yeah fair point.

Plenty of very good watering holes in the town centre. Notably the Trackside.

Agree with the first but reckon he was a lot slimmer. Also agree the sentiment that its a disgrace to be in the shape that he is. That said he is doing everything we'd ask of him at the moment and playing well.

Needs to be more commanding in the air, but I'm nit picking.

Didn't think he was having a tantrum, more annoyed at his performance.

He'll be a big player for us but I thought that he tired along with the rest of the team early in the second half. There were a coupleof occasions where our left back wanted to send it down the line and he didn't offer a run.

Thought Bryan struggled against Graham and lost a lot of headers, rolls royce on the deck though. If he can become more commanding in the air he'll make the grade higher up.

A shift from Jack Bryne. Credit where it's due.

Our most attacking successful period came with Fane in the team. Shez didn't fancy him, Wellens understood that to actually score goals you need to have the ball first and brought him straight back in. No wat would we have had that successful spell without Fane being in the team. I can't believe his place in the team is even up for debate. Completely mindless in this day and age to play football without a ball winner, at any level.

Yeah good point, he looked lively. If we go 2 up top who misses out in midfield? Going without our only ball winner would be madness. People calling for a return to the attacking football we saw initially under RW seem to forget/ fail to recognise that was only possible due the form of Fane protecting and breaking up play.

Placide Wilson Gerrard Byran Dummigan Fane Pringle Tope Byrne ( totally free role, play in that hole in front of back 4) Mclaughlin Davies

Ladapo to Southend. Wrong thread like.

Don't need any pace to land a ball on the money.

Or just a player without much previous game time. That said he's not up for the battle as of yet.

What' Byrne doing currently that he needs to continue doing? He's carrying on where he left off whilst on loan. Contributing very little. Wellens said as much then gave him a 2.5 year deal. Baffling tactics from the off yesterday. Play Byrne higher up off Davies where he has a free role. As it transpired he played deeper and still had a free role, as did Pringle and to a lesser extent Gardner. People in the bog we're bemoaning one up front. Whilst I agree we looked more threatening with 2 up top we should be harder to score against! Although we probably looked more threatening because Nazon was up for it. I can't remember who said, Clarke or Gerrard but half the battle at this level is desire. We are massively short in that area. We need some steel in there, whether that's someone alongside Fane or an upgrade on him.

You know what I thought of that same question and of you whilst I posted this. I knew you'd ask. I need to watch the goals back but from the ones I saw there were plenty of our midfielders in our box but none of them picking a man up. But to be honest I left Fane out of the criticism because despite his limitations he gives everything. That's more than the lads quoted above.

Someone called it further up, but midfields pathetic attempts to track runners cost us big time. Pringle, Byrne and Gardner coasting about. You'd think we're in a dog fight.

Nothing really. We need to upgrade on him massively.

You've got all our problems wrong in my opinion. Fair enough Fane splits opinion but for me he's one of the first names on the sheet. We have a terrible pitch ( so should be using it to our advantage) can't really score and certainly can't keep a clean sheet. We need to be grinding out results, but unlike Shez twice it seems Wellens doesn't know how or has the personnel up for the battle.

Given the fact we've a handful of playerd coming in with zero L1 experience he'd likely do the same with a new manager. No point sacking Wellens unless we could attract proven quality. Which we can't.

Absolutely not. Clarke featured in every game he was available for before being dropped. Probably over 100 games for various clubs. He is 6 years older than Gerrard and in miles better shape. These are facts.