oafc0000 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 To be honest oafc0000, not intending to cause any offence here, but I thought you were much older than 28. I wouldn't be contacting the Spanish Embassy either though to be honest, but you never know, every little helps. The fact people thought I was older I take as a compliment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 "went to malaga...crap..went back to sevilla..lass took pity and she and her mates are taking me out!" respecto! If our man (still) in Seville is going to watch a League match over there, ask him to look out for the stolen Flag in amongst the Ultras. If it is spotted, arrangements could probably be made through Sevilla FC for the Flag to be recovered at a future match and returned to OAFC, to avoid a diplomatic incident. Also those of you who watch Spanish football on TV, please look out for the Flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardlelatic Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 If our man (still) in Seville is going to watch a League match over there, ask him to look out for the stolen Flag in amongst the Ultras. If it is spotted, arrangements could probably be made through Sevilla FC for the Flag to be recovered at a future match and returned to OAFC, to avoid a diplomatic incident. Also those of you who watch Spanish football on TV, please look out for the Flag. Diego In all honestly the flag will either now have been burnt or binned by now, the Spanish lads will not have kept hold of it due to its colours .. That Flag maybe now gone but like a Pheonix the new one will rise from the ashes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Diego In all honestly the flag will either now have been burnt or binned by now, the Spanish lads will not have kept hold of it due to its colours .. That's one way of looking at it. On the other hand it may be a prized 'trophy' which will be displayed among the Ultras' other flags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboafc Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 anyone thought of contacting Sevilla FC about the flag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoasis Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 anyone thought of contacting Sevilla FC about the flag? could be supporters of any spanish team as it was an international ..... there's more than one team in Seville also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 could be supporters of any spanish team as it was an international ..... there's more than one team in Seville also Could be. I would say the best idea is contact kanoute and get him to do a 'no penallty'return of the flag, seems a decent guy. If it doesn't work, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 anyone thought of contacting Sevilla FC about the flag? I've written to Sevilla FC in Spanish but I can't find an email address for Real Betis. It won't do any harm and you never know...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Dog Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Diego, i thought you'd have got yer namesake on the case be now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Diego, i thought you'd have got yer namesake on the case be now. Last week I wrote to my Latics fan contact in Spain, asking him to contact Diego for any assistance he can give in publicising the theft in Spain. I have not had a reply, so I have emailed Diego direct. If anything comes of it, I'll let you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I've also asked the Football Supporters' Federation to use its Spanish contacts to publicise the theft, in the hope of recovering the Flag, in view of its special sentimental value to fans and Ernie's family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardlelatic Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I've also asked the Football Supporters' Federation to use its Spanish contacts to publicise the theft, in the hope of recovering the Flag, in view of its special sentimental value to fans and Ernie's family. Terry have you spoken to Mark about this ? I have spoken to 2 people today from the FSF ...the incident is going to be added to the FA report for the game. There are many reasons why we cant have the incident advertised nationally. The age of the lads who stole the flag were 21-25 yrs old and the likelyhood that the flag is still in one piece is very very very slight so Ive been told by a Spanish adviser. Its a good idea to ask for help for information, but we cant go OTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I've written to Sevilla FC in Spanish.... It won't do any harm and you never know...... Sevilla FC has replied: Dear Sirs: Really it´s a pity all that you tell us in your mail. We can inform to you that if any case we know anything about the flag, we try to help to recuperate it. SFC Press departament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Terry have you spoken to Mark about this ? I have spoken to 2 people today from the FSF ...the incident is going to be added to the FA report for the game. There are many reasons why we cant have the incident advertised nationally. The age of the lads who stole the flag were 21-25 yrs old and the likelyhood that the flag is still in one piece is very very very slight so Ive been told by a Spanish adviser. Its a good idea to ask for help for information, but we cant go OTT Im confused and interested in the reasons why this cant go national ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Im confused and interested in the reasons why this cant go national ? im guessing its something to do with the relationship between the two countries...there is no love lost between us and spain regarding football...last time we played we had the racist chanting and abuse from spanish fans towards our black players..hence why the fixture this time round was moved... probably the english fa and there spanish counterparts would like everybody to think and believe that this game went ahead without a hitch,no trouble etc etc... this going national would again put the spanish in a bad light of not being able to control there fans and more than likely result in some form of reprimand and punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics and England Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I have submitted a statement to the FSF this morning and this will be included in the report that is delivered to both FIFA and UEFA. This incident will not disappear for the Spanish FA but it needs to be handled through the correct channels. The FSF report is used when making future decisions regarding the suitability of countries, cities and grounds to hold important football matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Tonight's rarely wrong Chron has the story of the assault of Mark, and it mentions the purpose of the Flag being to raise public awareness about skin cancer http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-fea...ligan-territory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Tonight's rarely wrong Chron has the story of the assault of Mark, and it mentions the purpose of the Flag being to raise public awareness about skin cancer http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-fea...ligan-territory I'll bet that jaw took some breaking..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln Blue Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 The Ernie flag report should be forwarded to the Spanish Embassy. They should know they have scum the same as us and issue a statement to that effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohh Johnny Eyre Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 The Ernie flag report should be forwarded to the Spanish Embassy. They should know they have scum the same as us and issue a statement to that effect. Do you honestly think the Spanish fans knew of the sentimental value the flag had to some people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Do you honestly think the Spanish fans knew of the sentimental value the flag had to some people? If they have Googled to find out who the 'Ernie Cooksey' is on their England 'trophy', they will be led to the ernieflag site, from which even the most callous of thieves cannot fail to note the sentimental value of the Flag. If English hooligans had stolen a flag designed in memory of a dead Spanish football hero, I suspect that it would have become an international incident. The Spanish public would have been marching in the streets, with questions asked in our Parliament and the English media calling on the thieves to do the honourable thing and return the flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohh Johnny Eyre Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 If they have Googled to find out who the 'Ernie Cooksey' is on their England 'trophy', they will be led to the ernieflag site, from which even the most callous of thieves cannot fail to note the sentimental value of the Flag. If English hooligans had stolen a flag designed in memory of a dead Spanish football hero, I suspect that it would have become an international incident. The Spanish public would have been marching in the streets, with questions asked in our Parliament and the English media calling on the thieves to do the honourable thing and return the flag. Why would a Spanish fan google "Ernie Cooksey" though?? I'm not for one minute condoning what they've done, or defending them. I just think that maybe they don't understand and took the flag because it was a St George's flag. *I put my tin hat on in anticipation for the abuse I am likely to get * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Why would a Spanish fan google "Ernie Cooksey" though?? Out of curiosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardlelatic Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Why would a Spanish fan google "Ernie Cooksey" though?? I'm not for one minute condoning what they've done, or defending them. I just think that maybe they don't understand and took the flag because it was a St George's flag. *I put my tin hat on in anticipation for the abuse I am likely to get * Your right it was the only reason they took the flag ! They would have no idea what it was for or what the name said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohh Johnny Eyre Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Your right it was the only reason they took the flag ! They would have no idea what it was for or what the name said That's my point, Rich. What they have done isn't sick and perverse as such. They have no idea who Ernie Cooksey is and, to be honest, why would they? None of us would be any the wiser if a Spanish player, who had spent his Career in the bottom two divisions or Non League had died. And if we saw a flag with said Spanish players name on, we would still have no idea who he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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