palmer1 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 joe will sign for twelve months only if there is a decent budget he needs to bring in players because he cannot work with whats at the club ...not good enough. obvious but he will only sign for the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgard Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 joe will sign for twelve months only if there is a decent budget he needs to bring in players because he cannot work with whats at the club ...not good enough. obvious but he will only sign for the year so joe gets rid of the dead wood and builds his own team then does one after a year then we get another manager in who wants to build his own team and has a three year plan then the powers that be get rid then we get another man in with his three year plan and so on, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 so joe gets rid of the dead wood and builds his own team then does one after a year then we get another manager in who wants to build his own team and has a three year plan then the powers that be get rid then we get another man in with his three year plan and so on, Either way the situation needs sorting and I think we need a manager in place ASAP if Joe doesnt want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigfinLatic Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 It would be utterly stupid to offer anyone a one year contract as a manager. Even if Guus Hiddink decided pissing around with Russia and Russia London wasnt for him and wanted a taste of proper football for a year it still would be stupid. Giving people a 1 year contract is just giving whoever signs it a revolving door to sod off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 If at the end of the season the league position is rosy then the next manager has to accept what he has to work with or hes not the right man for the job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgard Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 If at the end of the season the league position is rosy then the next manager has to accept what he has to work with or hes not the right man for the job! what do you call rosey?and no manager worth his salt is going to be told to get to work with players that he may not rate,corney might aswell pick the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 It isn't mandatory to leave at the end of a 1 year contract. Just as your not guaranteed to stay for 3 years if you sign a 3 year contract (just ask Brian Talbot, Ronnie Moore and Shez). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 what do you call rosey?and no manager worth his salt is going to be told to get to work with players that he may not rate,corney might aswell pick the team. i meant to put rosier, if its a decent team that gets put together and we finish higher than this year then why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Is this not simply a rolling contract? If it works out, he'll stay on and if it doesn't the club don't need to pay him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 It isn't mandatory to leave at the end of a 1 year contract. Just as your not guaranteed to stay for 3 years if you sign a 3 year contract (just ask Brian Talbot, Ronnie Moore and Shez). If Joe does sign he might only be prepared to put the groundwork in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Is this not simply a rolling contract? If it works out, he'll stay on and if it doesn't the club don't need to pay him off. As good as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 It's worth remembering, as Joe himself said on his return, he never actually had a contract for longer than a season the last time he was here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgard Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 i meant to put rosier, if its a decent team that gets put together and we finish higher than this year then why not? not every manager has the same way or style of doing things,thats why they have certain players and backroom staff they can trust and rely on,thats the way it is unfortunately or fortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelly955 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 If Joe signs a 12 month contract and the team are doing well at the end of it I am sure he will be only too happy to stay. If on the other hand we are doing badly most of you will be shouting for is head anyway, so I fail to see the problem with a twelve month deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Joe is desperate to prove to himself he has still got what it takes to get a team to win a match. If he gets a contract for twelve months he should be able to get that elusive victory during that time. What we need is someone who is in the habit of winning matches, and with ambitions beyond the next twelve months to take the Club forward into the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakefield-oldham Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 i have seen or heard nothing to suggest joe will not be signing a contract for next season,,and if next season goes well then i dont see joe leaving the job half done,,,,long live the king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 i have seen or heard nothing to suggest joe will not be signing a contract for next season,,and if next season goes well then i dont see joe leaving the job half done,,,,long live the king The last Latics manager to go seven onsecutive league games without a win was Ronnie Moore at the end of the 2005/06 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics4lifenotjustxmas Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Joe is desperate to prove to himself he has still got what it takes to get a team to win a match. If he gets a contract for twelve months he should be able to get that elusive victory during that time. What we need is someone who is in the habit of winning matches, and with ambitions beyond the next twelve months to take the Club forward into the Championship. Realistically as the 2009/10 season starts in August depending upon when he signs a 12 month contract he only has 9 or 10 months to to get that elusive first victory. Do you think this is achievable in such a short space of time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellysheroes Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Is this not simply a rolling contract? If it works out, he'll stay on and if it doesn't the club don't need to pay him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 The last Latics manager to go seven onsecutive league games without a win was Ronnie Moore at the end of the 2005/06 season. Why is it that you don't want Joe to be manager? On several threads your comments are, at best, unwelcoming of the idea. In some, as in the above posting, you appear to be sniping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penrhyn Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Why is it that you don't want Joe to be manager? On several threads your comments are, at best, unwelcoming of the idea. In some, as in the above posting, you appear to be sniping. Welll Said Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 what do you call rosey?and no manager worth his salt is going to be told to get to work with players that he may not rate,corney might aswell pick the team. If we finish next season in a better position than this season what manager could say "I dont rate these players", id be interested to hear your or anybody elses opinion on this actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Why is it that you don't want Joe to be manager? On several threads your comments are, at best, unwelcoming of the idea. In some, as in the above posting, you appear to be sniping. Because some people see it as living in the past and we need to move on, simple as really. And the posters on here who do not want Royle to be next manager for perfectly credible reason could accuse the mob of sniping at them on the same basis that you have accused diego of sniping at royle. Please dont take this as a pop or an insult towards either clan, I'm merely trying to show both sides of the coin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Because some people see it as living in the past and we need to move on, simple as really. And the posters on here who do not want Royle to be next manager for perfectly credible reason could accuse the mob of sniping at them on the same basis that you have accused diego of sniping at royle. Please dont take this as a pop or an insult towards either clan, I'm merely trying to show both sides of the coin. Lets face it Carl, whoever the manager is going to be there will always be some people who have a pop, part of life i s'pose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 (edited) Why is it that you don't want Joe to be manager? On several threads your comments are, at best, unwelcoming of the idea. In some, as in the above posting, you appear to be sniping. Joe said he would not have been interested in the job if it had not involved the possibility of a trip to Wembley. He may no longer be interested in the job after tonight's game, and I would doubt that he would be willing to take on the task of getting us out of this division next season. Joe is a brilliant PR man and the media love him but, even with all his qualities, he is not a miracle worker - he can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. I would hate to see the fans turn on him if we struggle again next season, with his brilliant one-liners being thrown back in his face. I think Joe would only want a full-time football management job if it was in the comparative glamour of the Championship, working with better quality players. I welcomed the news of Joe's second coming and I had a tear in my eye before the Tranmere game, in spite of the hype over the PA system. Before the Orient game I said we would win only one game this season and finish below Walsall. I have seen nothing from Joe to convince me that he is the man for the job. To go seven games without a win, and for two of those to be last minute draws, is an abysmal record for any manager, especially one of Joe's experience. His knowledge of League One is minimal. His team selection, tactics, formations and substitutions can all be questioned. He is obviously embarrassed by the record and desperate for a win. Sure the players have let everyone down, but I expected Joe to produce some better results than Shez but this has not happened. What we need is someone who is in the habit of winning matches, and with ambitions beyond the next twelve months to take the Club forward into the Championship. I get criticised for repeating the same point. That's the second time I've stated the above about what we need. It's all about opinions. Edited April 24, 2009 by Diego_Sideburns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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