millsy82 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I feel Dave Penny has done a good job in his signings so far (especially in the attacking area of the team), but I do have major concerns with our defence. Essentially the only change made to last seasons defence is Brill and Jacobson and I don't believe that the signing of another centre halve will be the soloution. Its pretty worrying, Hazell's confidence seems to be shot and Gregan is not the player he was two years ago, Eardley's future is unclear and you have to wonder if he is fully committed, Lomax is prone to costly mistakes, Holdsworth is a man who wants to play centre mid and was only ever decent at full back and I personally have no confidence in Brill at all (which is probably a bit unfair on the lad, but its just the way I feel). If we are to push for a top 6 spot then we need to bring defensive re-enforcements ASAP. As it stands I can only see it being a season of mid table frustration for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc joe Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I feel Dave Penny has done a good job in his signings so far (especially in the attacking area of the team), but I do have major concerns with our defence. Essentially the only change made to last seasons defence is Brill and Jacobson and I don't believe that the signing of another centre halve will be the soloution. Its pretty worrying, Hazell's confidence seems to be shot and Gregan is not the player he was two years ago, Eardley's future is unclear and you have to wonder if he is fully committed, Lomax is prone to costly mistakes, Holdsworth is a man who wants to play centre mid and was only ever decent at full back and I personally have no confidence in Brill at all (which is probably a bit unfair on the lad, but its just the way I feel). If we are to push for a top 6 spot then we need to bring defensive re-enforcements ASAP. As it stands I can only see it being a season of mid table frustration for us. Whats the score now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsy82 Posted August 1, 2009 Author Share Posted August 1, 2009 Whats the score now? Game finished 2-4 to Blackpool. Costly mistakes at the back......AGAIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I feel Dave Penny has done a good job in his signings so far (especially in the attacking area of the team), but I do have major concerns with our defence. Essentially the only change made to last seasons defence is Brill and Jacobson and I don't believe that the signing of another centre halve will be the soloution. Its pretty worrying, Hazell's confidence seems to be shot and Gregan is not the player he was two years ago, Eardley's future is unclear and you have to wonder if he is fully committed, Lomax is prone to costly mistakes, Holdsworth is a man who wants to play centre mid and was only ever decent at full back and I personally have no confidence in Brill at all (which is probably a bit unfair on the lad, but its just the way I feel). If we are to push for a top 6 spot then we need to bring defensive re-enforcements ASAP. As it stands I can only see it being a season of mid table frustration for us. i think top 6 is overly optimistic no matter who we bring in really, however I'm worried about it. With the central mids we have at the moment i would have thought Greegs and hazell should get some cover but the problem seems to be their individual mistakes and vulnerability at free kicks. I also worry about how much cover the defence gets from the 2 wingers esp when they are taylor and Smalley. Lets hope the friendlies have done their job and come saturday all the cobwebs have been blown off. ( or we've signed terry and ferdinand )KTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I feel Dave Penny has done a good job in his signings so far (especially in the attacking area of the team), but I do have major concerns with our defence. Essentially the only change made to last seasons defence is Brill and Jacobson and I don't believe that the signing of another centre halve will be the soloution. Its pretty worrying, Hazell's confidence seems to be shot and Gregan is not the player he was two years ago, Eardley's future is unclear and you have to wonder if he is fully committed, Lomax is prone to costly mistakes, Holdsworth is a man who wants to play centre mid and was only ever decent at full back and I personally have no confidence in Brill at all (which is probably a bit unfair on the lad, but its just the way I feel). If we are to push for a top 6 spot then we need to bring defensive re-enforcements ASAP. As it stands I can only see it being a season of mid table frustration for us. I was worried before today with them 2 in centre defence, but conceding 4 today is very worrying i think the signing of a new centre half is essential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesbitt1988 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Game finished 2-4 to Blackpool. Costly mistakes at the back......AGAIN! yeah its not good but to be honest its not been good for a while now. we have always made silly mistakes that have cost us games. it does need sorting though and with the season starting next week it need sortin quick we look good going forward though and i think with abbot we have replaced hughes goal wise bring on the season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoafc Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I feel Dave Penny has done a good job in his signings so far (especially in the attacking area of the team), but I do have major concerns with our defence. Essentially the only change made to last seasons defence is Brill and Jacobson and I don't believe that the signing of another centre halve will be the soloution. Its pretty worrying, Hazell's confidence seems to be shot and Gregan is not the player he was two years ago, Eardley's future is unclear and you have to wonder if he is fully committed, Lomax is prone to costly mistakes, Holdsworth is a man who wants to play centre mid and was only ever decent at full back and I personally have no confidence in Brill at all (which is probably a bit unfair on the lad, but its just the way I feel). If we are to push for a top 6 spot then we need to bring defensive re-enforcements ASAP. As it stands I can only see it being a season of mid table frustration for us. I'm very worried about the defence, especially the centre halves, costly mistakes again. The trouble is at the mo there's nobody to push them. Come on penney, sort it out quickly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 who made the mistakes gregan and hazell? or were lomax and holdsworth involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I feel Dave Penny has done a good job in his signings so far (especially in the attacking area of the team), but I do have major concerns with our defence. Essentially the only change made to last seasons defence is Brill and Jacobson and I don't believe that the signing of another centre halve will be the soloution. Its pretty worrying, Hazell's confidence seems to be shot and Gregan is not the player he was two years ago, Eardley's future is unclear and you have to wonder if he is fully committed, Lomax is prone to costly mistakes, Holdsworth is a man who wants to play centre mid and was only ever decent at full back and I personally have no confidence in Brill at all (which is probably a bit unfair on the lad, but its just the way I feel). If we are to push for a top 6 spot then we need to bring defensive re-enforcements ASAP. As it stands I can only see it being a season of mid table frustration for us. It's obvious we have a big problem at centre back and need a pacy player in quickly for competition, however, we didn't have our two 1st choice full backs on today and that didn't help. Results and performances in friendlies, for me, are irelevant and I would like to think that we can step up a gear for next weeks opener. Once we get a settled 11 and a month of the season over with we will be able to judge whether we can challenge or not...I'm reasonably happy with the squad we have........We might be waiting for Eardley's fee to materialise and could have a couple more players coming in over the next week or so!! KTF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Yeah, im worried. We're going to be KK's Newcastle - you score 3 we'll score 4!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsy82 Posted August 1, 2009 Author Share Posted August 1, 2009 Top 6 is very optamistic as it stands. If we can some solid defensive players then we have the makings of a very good side for this league. Everyone will (as always) be capable of beating everyone else. It's those who perform on the most consitent basis that will get promoted come next May and unfortunatley we don't have the players in defence who are consistent enough. We haven't really changed anything from last season's defence (which was very poor). We still have 3 of the back 4 and Jacobson (who looks pretty decent) will not be the answer. DP need to bring in another keeper and two centre havles and possibly another left back as cover for Jacobson. At this point in time I would not be unhappy if Hazell and Lomax we're shown the door, I don't think they are up to the standard and I'm still undecided on Gregan. Of course I understand it's too late to be making major changes to the defence now and I just hope that at the very least we sign another centre back before the Stockport game, to at least give us some options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_tak Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 who made the mistakes gregan and hazell? or were lomax and holdsworth involved? Going off the report, all the goals came from Blackpool play down their right (our left) with Taylor-Fletcher doing all the damage and Lomax, then Steer getting the run around. Doesn't mention anything re the centre-halfs. A worrying lack of competition in those positions. 'though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Going off the report, all the goals came from Blackpool play down their right (our left) with Taylor-Fletcher doing all the damage and Lomax, then Steer getting the run around. Doesn't mention anything re the centre-halfs. A worrying lack of competition in those positions. 'though. Maybe if Jacobson was playing he would have handled Taylor-Fletcher better, but we need a centre half asap who is Dean Holdsworth by the way, according to the half time report on the OS he plays for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Just got back We definately need a keeper asap!!! The last two goals I think brill could have done much better with Marking was non existant for their first two On the plus side, going forward we looked capable of scoring and very dangerous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUNGFOO Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 we need 2 centre backs asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIMH Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Oldham certainly have a better and more options in defence than Tranmere. Ian goodison still hasn't returned from Jamaica for pre season, we have one left back, an 18 year old as our only reliable centre defender at the club at the moment and we have a right back on loan. For friendlies Gareth Edds has played who is a midfielder. Just be aware that you are lucky that you have a defence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonBlueLad Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Just got back We definately need a keeper asap!!! The last two goals I think brill could have done much better with Marking was non existant for their first two On the plus side, going forward we looked capable of scoring and very dangerous I'd agree regarding the keeper. Not set the best impression yet. We looked good going forward in the first half. Second half we seemed to go about 20 minutes without getting near Blackpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Just got back We definately need a keeper asap!!! The last two goals I think brill could have done much better with Marking was non existant for their first two On the plus side, going forward we looked capable of scoring and very dangerous By the sounds of it, it looks like we might be returning to Royle's "doesn't matter how many you concede so long as you score more than them" tactics,which, if it works, might not be a bad thing. If it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Stephens played! How did he look? Also, why have we been wearing our away kit at home? Marketing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Also, why have we been wearing our away kit at home? Marketing? we have a marketing department ? you will be telling us were moving to a new stadium next ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_tak Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 By the sounds of it, it looks like we might be returning to Royle's "doesn't matter how many you concede so long as you score more than them" tactics,which, if it works, might not be a bad thing. If it works. Whilst it was only a friendly (only, he says ), it didn't work today. These reports regarding Brill are very unsettling, but it appears he hasn't got two competent central defenders in front of him. What 'keeper would look good in that situation? Maybe the Fleming move was a mistake or maybe we are panicking way too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeF Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Can't believe Fleming was sent out on loan. DP said he needs games and after Brill's last 3 games, games Fleming would have gotten. A new keeper and at least 1 CB are needed ASAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creepy Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Whilst it was only a friendly (only, he says ), it didn't work today. These reports regarding Brill are very unsettling, but it appears he hasn't got two competent central defenders in front of him. What 'keeper would look good in that situation? Maybe the Fleming move was a mistake or maybe we are panicking way too soon. i dont think its a case of panicking way too soon, the fact is we have seen it all before we are just reading it as it is again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Defence was very poor. Hazell heading that, he's not the same player he used to be, so many mistakes. He needs to be replaced. Brill is playing awfully I feel, he doesn't move, Crossley moved more, so many goals ths season have been one on one, they don't even have to try a decent effort it's all too easy. Lomax I thought was doing well today until the end some sloppy clearances that he was deaing with well before. Gregan is alright, worth a first-team place but needs someone next to him. Holdsworth hasn't done much wrong. No chance we will be challenging for promotion with a defensive line-up like that. No chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshaw Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I am afraid Brill does not match his name. Every time the ball breaches the defence, it is a 70/30 chance of conceding. He plays like he is related to Budtz, who at least was only on loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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