Crusoe Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Air attacks by British and French planes expected within hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) Air attacks by British and French planes expected within hours Wonderful...I wonder how many kids we will snuff out this time... All in the name of the British Interest... We sell the nutter arms, we took their money, traded... oh and sent back a terrorist... What a utter mess.. We have no moral authority to do :censored: around the world these days... Edited March 17, 2011 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 It might be a bit more than a no fly zone, as the first paragraph of your linky indicates: The UN Security Council has backed a no-fly zone over Libya and "all necessary measures" short of an invasion "to protect civilians and civilian-populated areas". Given that Ghaddifi's lads are going to be advancing towards civilian areas, I think this is a Charter to slaughter them. Personally, I hope the rebels win, but in the knowledge that I don't know whether that will result in better or worse conditions for people wherever down the line. There is no magic wand in international affairs any more than there is in the welfare state, policing, education etc. I don't want to spend more British lives or money on yet another speculative gamble on the outcome of military intervention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLatics Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 We sold him arms, THEREFORE we should go in, not despite it!! As a civilised, developed country, we have a duty to go in and do what the people there can't do for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 We sold him arms, THEREFORE we should go in, not despite it!! As a civilised, developed country, we have a duty to go in and do what the people there can't do for themselves. Like in Iraq ? Why don't we go in and deal with the other countries who are torturing their people who we dealt arms to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 We sold him arms, THEREFORE we should go in, not despite it!! As a civilised, developed country, we have a duty to go in and do what the people there can't do for themselves. The White Man's Burden? We did right to start giving that up over a century ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Like in Iraq ? Why don't we go in and deal with the other countries who are torturing their people who we dealt arms to ? Because they don't have oil. Cynical but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) Because they don't have oil. Cynical but true. It was a loaded question ;-) Edited March 18, 2011 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 We sold him arms, THEREFORE we should go in, not despite it!! As a civilised, developed country, we have a duty to go in and do what the people there can't do for themselves. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHA!!! Your naivety is touching, I'll give you that. To be brutally honest I'm surprised the UK and US are interested in this - Gadaffi's nearly won, we'd back to the cosy status quo within a few weeks with renewed oil deals et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 oh and sent back a terrorist... If he had anything to do with the bombing of Pan-Am flight 103 then I'm a monkey's uncle. I hear he is due to star in the Libyan stage production of "Absolutely Fabulous", he will be playing the character made famous by Joanna Lumley as he has vast experience of playing the part of Patsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 If he had anything to do with the bombing of Pan-Am flight 103 then I'm a monkey's uncle. I hear he is due to star in the Libyan stage production of "Absolutely Fabulous", he will be playing the character made famous by Joanna Lumley as he has vast experience of playing the part of Patsy. Wouldn't be surprised... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 It's a source of eternal confusion to me that the SNP hasn't actually come out and said "We sent an innocent man home" in the face of the global condemnation of Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 It's a source of eternal confusion to me that the SNP hasn't actually come out and said "We sent an innocent man home" in the face of the global condemnation of Scotland. Could you imagine the :censored: storm that would generate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 P.S. Of course, it was in the interests of the UK at large to send him home when we did - before an embarrassing appeal overturned his conviction. All part of the 'deal'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 The Daily Mash has an update on the latest situation Fingers crossed Libyan rebels aren't insane18-03-11 THE United Nations last night had its fingers crossed that the Libyan rebels it has just backed are not stark, raving lunatics. He's probably really niceAfter sanctioning military action against Colonel Gaddafi, British and US sources admitted they should probably have checked to make sure the anti-Gaddafi forces were in possession of at least a modicum of sanity. A senior Foreign Office official said: "Everyone was speaking very quickly and we forgot to ask about their general mental health, what sort of things they believe in and whether they simply want to take over Libya so that they can fulfil their spiritual destiny of killing everyone in Europe with a sword. "It'll be fine. I can see no reason why it should turn out to be like absolutely everything else." A US state department source added: "It's fair to say that our general dicking about in Muslim countries hasn't always worked. "We got rid of Saddam not realising that, as well as being a prick, he was also keeping the lid on a big basket full of :censored:nuts. "And while Colonel Gaddafi is one of the great psychopaths of our time, he's still not as mad as Mullah Omar, who if you remember got his start in the insanity business through the US-backed mujahideen. "Nevertheless I'm sure one of my colleagues has already mapped out a post invasion strategy for Libya that won't turn out to be a complete and utter piece of :censored:." Roy Hobbs, professor of doing the same thing over and over again at Reading University, said: "I have devised a simple multiple choice questionnaire which could be dropped on Benghazi this afternoon. "If you come across an American in the desert would you: a) Give him water, food and shelter as if he was one of your own; Give him water but then pass by; c) Cut off his head and pee on it?" Meanwhile the UN resolution was opposed by German chancellor Angela Merkel who insisted 'political pressure' would topple Colonel Gaddafi in just the same way it was used to remove one of her troublesome predecessors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 We sold him arms, THEREFORE we should go in, not despite it!! As a civilised, developed country, we have a duty to go in and do what the people there can't do for themselves. As a civilised developed country which got to where we are by questionable means in the past i.e. the British Empire, perhaps we shouldn't go in for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Dog Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I'd rather we stayed out wars and disputes in foreign lands. But what do you ? Sit back and let him carry on murdering and maiming innocent civillians who just want democracy.?I know we have sold him arms, but we didn't exactly sell them to him for him to use on innocent civillians. It's good that the Arab League called for this no-fly zone first and I hope they take the lead, but no doubt it will be us, despite what the French say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Just from the point of view of saving the people of Benghazi from indiscriminate slaughter, I can't wait for the bombs to start falling, hopefully on Gadaffi's head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I have absolute faith in Dave & Nick to make sure that this is all done properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) Just from the point of view of saving the people of Benghazi from indiscriminate slaughter, I can't wait for the bombs to start falling, hopefully on Gadaffi's head. That is the problem with bombs.. Even the "smart" ones... I know your wider point though... The greater good over are own selfish reasons for action... Edited March 18, 2011 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I have absolute faith in Dave & Nick to make sure that this is all done properly. There is an interesting domestic political dimension to this. If we end up embroiled in another war (i.e. more than just using a few jets to enforce a no-fly zone) that brings more bloodshed and another uncertain ending then I predict we will see the end of either the coalition or the Lib Dem party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Just from the point of view of saving the people of Benghazi from indiscriminate slaughter, I can't wait for the bombs to start falling, hopefully on Gadaffi's head. Reminds me of a Not The Nine O'Clock New Report. "Somebody has tried to assassinate Col Gadaffi, firing bullets in to his head and missing his brain by 6 feet" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 There is an interesting domestic political dimension to this. If we end up embroiled in another war (i.e. more than just using a few jets to enforce a no-fly zone) that brings more bloodshed and another uncertain ending then I predict we will see the end of either the coalition or the Lib Dem party. Indeed! This government malarkey isn't easy, especially when you throw in foreign affairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 It seems they are sending Tornados, so it is ground attack as well as no-fly. It's all a bit late if you were going to do that, they could have blown the :censored: out of them when they were driving across the desert but it's a bit more tricky when they are on the edge of town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 It seems they are sending Tornados, so it is ground attack as well as no-fly. It's all a bit late if you were going to do that, they could have blown the :censored: out of them when they were driving across the desert but it's a bit more tricky when they are on the edge of town. Shame the Ark Royal and them Harrier jets were incautiously junked really. I blame peacenik Clegg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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