24hoursfromtulsehill Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Whoever ends up in charge will sell the oil at the best price they can get on the international market. They can't sell it to the camels to spite us. As for the Tom Jones impersonator feeling harder because the mighty Ark Royal wasnt there.... HAHAHAHAHA Sure yeah right. Gadaffi might look like Tom Jones coming to the fag end of a crack bender but he isn't stupid. Materiel matters to people like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 Sure, he'd possibly be worried about the US Sixth Fleet on his doorstep, but not one small carrier. I really think you're overestimating the impact it would have had. His crackdown was in response to an uprising that would have happened with or without a small carrier in the Mediterranean; I can't see him pausing to think twice. Plus, the UK would not (and arguably could not, not for many, many years) have done anything unilaterally or without UN backing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 The danes and the canadians have sent 6 planes each, that makes up for no ark royal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 A million people saved from indiscriminate slaughter? Well if that's the real reason, great. But then why did we do naff all about Mugabe? (I'm more for letting the Libyan's sort it out for themselves to be honest, because whatever the outcome they'll still resent/hate us just as much) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 Can't argue with that last statement. I see no happy ending here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 The danes and the canadians have sent 6 planes each, that makes up for no ark royal. Yeah fine but the Danes and the fake yanks are not known for their foreign policy interventionism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) So oafc0000, tell us how much more oil we/the West now supposedly own/control since Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya.... I don't see your point or why you are pushing it in my direction? Edited March 20, 2011 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 But then why did we do naff all about Mugabe? (I'm more for letting the Libyan's sort it out for themselves to be honest, because whatever the outcome they'll still resent/hate us just as much) I think in this instance there is a lot of international support for intervention, particularly the Arab nations. Whereas there was no political will within the African Union for support in unseating Mugabe. Also, from my reading of the situation, armed intervention regarding Libya does not constitute an "illegal" war as there is backing from the UN Security Council and the Arab League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) I think in this instance there is a lot of international support for intervention, particularly the Arab nations. Whereas there was no political will within the African Union for support in unseating Mugabe. Also, from my reading of the situation, armed intervention regarding Libya does not constitute an "illegal" war as there is backing from the UN Security Council and the Arab League The original resolution regarding Iraq compliance and the consequences for not complying had security council backing yet certain people would have you believe Iraq was illegal. Go figure... Edited March 20, 2011 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) I think in this instance there is a lot of international support for intervention, particularly the Arab nations. Whereas there was no political will within the African Union for support in unseating Mugabe. Also, from my reading of the situation, armed intervention regarding Libya does not constitute an "illegal" war as there is backing from the UN Security Council and the Arab League Indeed, it's all about legalities. We sign up for these things so we can hardly ride roughshod over them. None of the surrounding nations of Zimbabwe wanted UN involvement - Why? well your guess is as good as mine, but mine is that they didn't want a :censored:load of starving folk on their doorstep, and that it was nice to see the whiteman get it for once. We have the backing on this one. But that is the problem. I should be saying that 'there is the backing for this one'. Why the hell are we trying to lead this? I'm certainly with Phones4u on his last statement. This is now a civil war. We are picking sides. Someone is going to be pissed with us come the end, and like previously I'd guess they'll be so pissed that they'll walk onto public transport with explosives. Brilliant! Edited March 20, 2011 by OldhamSheridan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 The Colonel is short of friends in the arab world for many reasons. He had a bitter and public falling out with King Abdullah some years ago, so the gulfies are out for him. If plays it both ways with the islam card, which doesnt end up impressing the secular socialist side (think egypt, iraq, syria) or the more modern (?) religious types. And he's plainly as mad as a bag of snakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Gadaffi's bang on...mad or not. Someone wants to take over my rule of a country and i'd shoot the fookers as well! As for anyone else being involved> What's it got to do with you!! If the Middle East want an uprising-leave 'em to it. Let's prepare our very own beautiful green and pleasant pastures for future 'challenges' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 The word for today is mission creep... The people who only concern themselves with legalities are going to :censored: a brick soon I feel.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Talk of regime change, mission creep, no end game... We've learned absolutely :censored: all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTick Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Ministry of Defence. RAF Tornado's abort bombing mission due to innocent civilians in the area. US Air force. Bombing mission completed...Business as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Heard a recording of the Blair - quadiffi phone call the other day . The mad man rambled on incoherently for half an hour then quadaffi got a word in edge ways . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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