PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) I've kind of mentioned him before, but here's the latest on Azhar Ahmed: http://www.bbc.co.uk...-leeds-19604735 Just for a little perspective, before we find out what his sentence will be. I saw a cop show recently where they pulled over a HGV driver at 3 in the afternoon. He was nearly three times over the alcohol limit and had a mountain of open and unopened cans of high percentage lager in his truck. His punishment? An 18 month driving ban and a £150 fine. Oh....and cue the suggestions of me being prejudiced against somebody or some group or having an agenda, or other such intelligently thought out accusations. Edited September 15, 2012 by PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 There is no crime there. He has an opinion which offends a number of people. I really did do my degree in the wrong era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 What the bejesus is this country coming to? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Quite agree, it's completely stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Nobody disagrees with you so far. That must come as a disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Nobody disagrees with you so far. That must come as a disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Nobody disagrees with you so far. That must come as a disappointment. Amazement would be the more accurate word. As a sidenote, there is a Facebook page out there called "Azhar Ahmed Scumbag!!!" which has been up for months. It has over 3000 likes and is full of some of the most vile nationalistic, racist ftards in the country. It's surprising really since facebook isn't exactly anonymous. The irony of these people posting to what many or most people would be highly offensive sentiments, whilst being "critical" of a guy who is being imprisoned for saying something that they find highly offensive, is obviously lost on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/19703504[ Edited September 25, 2012 by PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/19703504[ He's in the wrong job! and the only crime that featured in the first article, was that it ever went to court in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 PSSS - No comment on this one? I presume that you have put it on here to say, this is an example when it is totally correct to be offended, the tweeters have gone to far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 PSSS - No comment on this one? I presume that you have put it on here to say, this is an example when it is totally correct to be offended, the tweeters have gone to far. Whether someone is offended, or whether someone is correct to be offended is not the point. Whether tweeters have gone too far isn't the point either. It's whether causing offense should be considered a criminal matter. My opinion on both these cases is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 It's not a great start to the new era of ending tasteless abuse supposed to be ushered in between the Scousers and Mancs. I'm genuinely in two places with this one. I think there is a place for abuse directed specifically at a person being considered different to voicing an opinion, however offensive it may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 It's not a great start to the new era of ending tasteless abuse supposed to be ushered in between the Scousers and Mancs.... http://www.telegraph...uel-chants.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Spare 5 minutes of your time to read this: http://www.traynorseye.com/2012/09/meeting-troll.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Whether someone is offended, or whether someone is correct to be offended is not the point. Whether tweeters have gone too far isn't the point either. It's whether causing offense should be considered a criminal matter. My opinion on both these cases is the same. Do you feel the same about this case, I am puzzled why you did not mention it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17515992 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) Do you feel the same about this case, I am puzzled why you did not mention it. http://www.bbc.co.uk...-wales-17515992 At length...http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=38120&hl= Edited September 26, 2012 by Scratch2000uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Spare 5 minutes of your time to read this: http://www.traynorse...ting-troll.html You beat me to it... it's now on the Guardian website... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/26/day-confronted-troll?INTCMP=SRCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Spare 5 minutes of your time to read this: http://www.traynorse...ting-troll.html That article goes well beyond causing offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 And......... http://www.itv.com/news/granada/2012-10-08/chorley-man-admits-making-offensive-comments-about-april-jones-on-facebook/ And I quote Mr Hudson concluded: "The reason for the sentence is the seriousness of the offence, the public outrage that has been caused and we felt there was no other sentence this court could have passed which conveys to you the abhorrence that many in society feel this crime should receive." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 And......... And I quote Just to clarify - you're saying this :censored: shouldn't have been punished for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Just to clarify - you're saying this :censored: shouldn't have been punished for this? Indeed. I believe I have established a clear theme on this thread. There appears to be a mounting list of cases like this and it is very disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Indeed. I believe I have established a clear theme on this thread. There appears to be a mounting list of cases like this and it is very disturbing. You and I share many opinions. I understand your concerns around things such as blasphemy etc. But, this is a deliberate and targeted attack - there really is no other word for it - on people in an exceptionally vulnerable place and to defend his actions is deplorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) You and I share many opinions. I understand your concerns around things such as blasphemy etc. But, this is a deliberate and targeted attack - there really is no other word for it - on people in an exceptionally vulnerable place and to defend his actions is deplorable. I am not defending his actions. I am attacking the deplorable decision of the state to prosecute and convict people in cases such as this. It's beyond a joke. I realise that not everyone agrees with with me. I realise that some people have a hard time understanding the concept of believing that someone is both a :censored:, and also has been harshly treated. But that is how it is, and I am not the only one outraged every time a story like this comes up. Edited October 8, 2012 by PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Magistrates courts these days seem to represent the mob rule/ vigilanties, they are nothing more than Kangaroo courts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Magistrates courts these days seem to represent the mob rule/ vigilanties, they are nothing more than Kangaroo courts. This ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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