BP1960 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I have a vision of you, BP,in a small dark room , whimpering and rocking back and forth in the foetal position lol..I was imagining a football pitch marked out in zones. Imagine the scenario of a coach with a megaphone on the touchline; "Would defender number 5 please procede to zone 16 and remain there until further notice" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 No, but they started their managerial careers in the '60s and '70s respectively, with the most recently retired doing so two years ago at the age of 71. They were different generations. However I can imagine Mourinho, Benitez, Monk and other well respected present day managers (or at least their teams) doing it. The skill is in getting your ideas across to your players successfully. hi lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) No, but they started their managerial careers in the '60s and '70s respectively, with the most recently retired doing so two years ago at the age of 71. They were different generations. However I can imagine Mourinho, Benitez, Monk and other well respected present day managers (or at least their teams) doing it. The skill is in getting your ideas across to your players successfully. I would loved to have seen Mourinho's pre match powerpoint to his players before their cup tie against Bradford City. Edited September 7, 2015 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 hi lee I said the skill is in getting the idea across successfully. I did not say that Johnson did so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I would loved to have seen Mourinho's pre match powerpoint to his players before their cup tie against Bradford City. Rule 36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) However I can imagine Mourinho, Benitez, Monk and other well respected present day managers (or at least their teams) doing it. I am not sure how much Mourinho would do. The sports science bits, yes. To be honest I dont knock those, but the named zones on a pitch and brain storms are :censored:. It is just sales aimed at businessmen who like that kind of crap. Edited September 7, 2015 by pukka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I would loved to have seen Mourinho's pre match powerpoint to his players before their cup tie against Bradford City. Change scares you doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Change scares you doesn't it? All a load of baloney, no wonder players looked confused, like when I heard Jones and Dunn last Saturday asking the management team what they were supposed to be doing. As for change, at 70yo I can teach many a kid how to create charts, graphs and powerpoints, I'm a whiz at Excel and can make a smartphone sing and dance. Edited September 7, 2015 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 All a load of baloney, no wonder players looked confused, like when I heard Jones and Dunn last Saturday asking the management team what they were supposed to be doing. Laugh all you like but this is the way the world going 20 years from now stuff like the above will look like someone with a chalk and blackboard now shouting 4-4-2 lads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Laugh all you like but this is the way the world going 20 years from now stuff like the above will look like someone with a chalk and blackboard now shouting 4-4-2 lads! You could be right, football might be played by pre programmed robots, have to be careful how we treat those robots though for dissent - remember the movie Westworld? Edited September 7, 2015 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Laugh all you like but this is the way the world going 20 years from now stuff like the above will look like someone with a chalk and blackboard now shouting 4-4-2 lads! Maybe so, but will anyone be watching it? (at lower levels) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Maybe so, but will anyone be watching it? (at lower levels) I hope so Dave, I will be 90yo then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) You could be right, football might be played by pre programmed robots, have to be careful how we treat those robots though for dissent - remember the movie Westworld? We might even go back the other way and just tell players to go out play a 4-4-2, I do get the impression though is that footballers will have to be more intelligent and be more tactically aware dare I say it, it may get to a stage where we do away with coaches as players sort it out themselves on the pitch. Edited September 7, 2015 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I am not sure how much Mourinho would do. The sports science bits, yes. To be honest I dont knock those, but the named zones on a pitch and brain storms are :censored:. It is just sales aimed at businessmen who like that kind of crap. Named zones, POMO and all that go back to Charles Reep and Charles Hughes in the '50s I believe. Not a new phenomenon, whether it's baloney or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Maybe so, but will anyone be watching it? (at lower levels) Who knows I hope so when I have kids if like to take them to watch Oldham Athletic. But I just hope Oldham athletic are prepared to adapt to the changing world around them. In the last 20 years we've not adapted at all and we've stagnated and other clubs that have, have sailed past is into the distance. That change may be anything from trendy coaching talk to the way it operates off the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Who knows I hope so when I have kids if like to take them to watch Oldham Athletic. But I just hope Oldham athletic are prepared to adapt to the changing world around them. In the last 20 years we've not adapted at all and we've stagnated and other clubs that have, have sailed past is into the distance. That change may be anything from trendy coaching talk to the way it operates off the pitch. No-one should have a problem with change; the business that fails to change will at best stagnate, but I'm afraid this is just too much for me. I have sat through enough presentations of this type (in totally different contexts) to be able to spot the common factor - and that is style over substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I keep thinking the Individual Brilliance Zone could just be called, "SHOOOOOOT!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Named zones, POMO and all that go back to Charles Reep and Charles Hughes in the '50s I believe. Not a new phenomenon, whether it's baloney or not! Charlie Hughes, now you're making me cringe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 No-one should have a problem with change; the business that fails to change will at best stagnate, but I'm afraid this is just too much for me. I have sat through enough presentations of this type (in totally different contexts) to be able to spot the common factor - and that is style over substance. I think we've all suffered from death by PowerPoint at so e point in our lives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Had to mention the Northern Ireland managers shouted instruction tonight, no powerpoints or clipboards from him just - Get it to Stuart Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) I think we've all suffered from death by PowerPoint at so e point in our lives Done a few in my time, great for flummoxing audiences, you can baffle a lot with science. Edited September 7, 2015 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveecky Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 This PowerPoint isn't even original. It uses ideas that are part of the curriculum to obtain the uefa coaching badges. There isn't anything that wouldn't be particular to Barnsley. It' like copying your mate's homework. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluear Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 This PowerPoint isn't even original. It uses ideas that are part of the curriculum to obtain the uefa coaching badges. There isn't anything that wouldn't be particular to Barnsley. It' like copying your mate's homework. No, it's like being taught something at school then remembering it, changing it to suit what you need and applying it. That's what it's like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 But I just hope Oldham athletic are prepared to adapt to the changing world around them. In the last 20 years we've not adapted at all and we've stagnated and other clubs that have, have sailed past is into the distance. That change may be anything from trendy coaching talk to the way it operates off the pitch. Eh? We employed Johnson first.......??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Done a few in my time, great for flummoxing audiences, you can baffle a lot with science. In my last job I would sit through endless PowerPoint meetings where IT people just throw a lot of information at you. Now I work in a marketing agency where they keep the message as simple as possible as they know the audience need to understand it. Maybe that's the challenge create a strategic game plan which out foxes the opposition but so that Connor Brown and Dom Poleon understand it. Edited September 7, 2015 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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