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A la Nepomuceno for Lang at Fulham

When did we sign Lang and Surridge last season? Was it at start of training? genuinely can’t recall.

A man who has done more for the club than you are ever likely to contribute.But whatevs.

Dickie Down Ray Treacy

Neither did I but apparently McCann has gone to Hull. The fixation on Premier news (and women’s World Cup) seems to have banished football league news from the media.

Before contemplating another day of self indulgence , spending our pensions, enjoying concessionary prices, looking at holiday brochures...We certainly are having a laugh Suck it up young man.

Maybe the word "striker" as a description is too loosely bandied about nowadays. "Forward" would be better as it includes those who'se main attributes are holding the ball up, making space for others etc.

I believe it was the actual first. Cover says Vol 1 No 1...and a few years ago Programme Monthly listed it as the first known issue.

Ha ! You're right and that's the one I have. Got it an auction along with newspaper cuttings about the match. Will amend my earlier post! Thanks.

I have the 1929/30 programme v Sheff Wed, FA Cup 4th Rnd, the match that was our record home attendance. I believe the first Latics' programme was v Bolton Wanderers Reserves , Oct 13th 1906, in the Lancashire Combination. Our last season before entering the League. Edit: Put the wrong season in - old age (of me not the programme) catching up....

Bootham Crescent: A Second Home Paul Bowser Minsterman Books, 2019 Hardback, 274pp, £25 If it’s on your club’s fixture list, then an away trip to York is generally a must at some time. One of the great historic cities, good pubs and food, easy to get to, and a ground that’s as traditional as they come. My first trip to Bootham Crescent was in 1963, watching Oldham get thumped 5-2, and much of the ground then is still recognisable now. In a matter of months the club is scheduled to move to a new “Community Stadium” and housing will replace the tight terraces and stands. It’s appropriate timing, therefore, for this excellent book to appear, chronicling the story of York City and their grounds up to 1960 (a second volume is in preparation). It is a truly excellent publication, comprehensive, extremely well illustrated and tightly written by an author who clearly saw it as a labour of love. Although it’s subtitled as covering the period from 1922, when the present York City was formed, it actually begins with a chapter detailing story the first club of that name which lasted from 1908 until 1917. In a town where rugby league was the established spectator sport the club struggled, its 3000 attendances shrank with the outbreak of war and liquidation followed. As with the rest of the book this brief story is complete with contemporary photographs, press reports and other material, complementing and illuminating the narrative. After the First War football began to grow again and three local clubs joined the newly established Yorkshire League which included Reserve teams from Football League clubs. This stimulated a desire for a professional club in the city and a public meeting in March 1922 called for the creation of York City. Ambitions were high and within six weeks an application to join the Football League was submitted. Bearing in mind that the club had no players or ground it was no surprise that hopes were dashed! However, over the next seven years playing success and financial progress developed, as did the Fulfordgate ground, outside the city centre, where there was a record attendance of over 12000. Season tickets at £2 (£1.75 for ladies) were introduced and innovations such as a half time scoreboard inaugurated. And it was this ground that saw York’s first match as a League club in 1929 against Wrexham. A move to Bootham Crescent, then a cricket ground and nearer the housing of thousands of chocolate and railway workers, took place in 1932 and for the best part of 90 years it has been the home of the Minstermen (or Citizens). Paul Bowser has pulled together its saga magnificently, the development of every part of the ground is recorded with plans, photographs and background information. The on-field fortunes, and York were renowned Cup fighters, are set against a background of how tickets were distributed, battles with flooding, the massive involvement of supporters in ground improvements, admission prices, and much more that help make this a fascinating volume. There’s an additional bonus for programme collectors too; an appendix on the history of York programmes with an illustration of the front cover of a programme from every season from 1923/4 to 1959/60. Sadly, now a non-league club, York City is still worth a visit at its present Bootham Crescent home. Be quick, there are only a few months left.

We’re taking your souk again.

At home to Dale.20July

Looks a certainty - his name is already being mispelt on here.

Indeed. One bounce and in from 80 yds.

Albert Quixall too Moments of quality but injury prone (and he missed that pen against West Ham in the Cup)

Stanley Park Story: Life, Love and the Merseyside Derby Jeff Goulding Pitch Publishing 2018 Hardback 255pp £16.99 It used to be a cliche that Liverpool v Everton matches were different from other derby games. They were portrayed as distinct in that, despite the fierce rivalry, supporters from each team would stand (or sit) together and players would manifest a similar bond, competitive but without malice or vitriol. Families would be predominantly red or blue but would still tolerate the “other team” via marriage. Indeed the author, a Liverpool supporter, married an Evertonian. So is this an over romanticized account of the relationship between the two sets of fans? It’s important to recognise that the book is, to use a horrible word, “faction”. Based on real events on the football field and in local politics, it is nevertheless a story with imaginary main characters. It does allow a human narrative to develop around matches and gives the author a licence to accentuate or diminish particular aspects of life supporting the clubs from the early 1960s through to recent times. There’s no doubt that there’s a passion and love for his city and the football culture that is so vibrant there. Excellently researched in terms of the matches, signings and other club related matters, the book describes fifty plus years of seesawing fortunes for Merseyside as well as the two teams, mixing together hard facts with dramatised events in the life of the story’s persona. So, the all Merseyside Cup Final of 1986and The Hillsborough tragedy, and their impact, are witnessed from the fictional perspectives of characters in the book. What is lost in objectivity is replaced by an obviously heartfelt representation of the reactions of those affected. There are times of great joy in the book, but also those of sadness and despair. The friendship of the two main characters, one Blue and one Red, is tested many times but the dominant message is that regardless of that which divides, there is one love that brings them together. That of football in the city. Outsiders sometimes say that people from Liverpool are over emotional and believe themselves to somehow receive a raw deal. It’s possible that there are aspects of that in this book and non-Scousers may raise an eyebrow at some of it. It is however a rich look at a vibrant 50 years when Everton and Liverpool have never been far from the headlines. Times may have changed and the derby matches certainly now have more vitriol and problems on and off the pitch, so perhaps the book is well timed. A reflection and reminder of a rivalry that actually did unite as well as divide.

The expectation that we will be able to attract and appoint a manager/coach who has been consistently successful.......

So it was down to a lack of talent?

Neil Redfearn on Twitter today. Just a coincidence that he’d post it now?

Miracle at Field Mill needed

As does La Familia Sagrada but millions come to look at that...

Newport 2 Mansfield 1 ht 1-0 Amond 7089

You’ve gone early Harry. Trying to flush out my prediction? Anyway I’ve heard Tyler Andrew is carrying a knock ....

I’m amazed and appalled that there’s been such unpleasant complaints. You and Bristol make the PL a thoroughly enjoyable and well run aspect of OWTB. You don’t deserve such criticism and please remember that there’s enormous gratitude from most of us. I can’t help but think that the apparent aggression that’s been shown is consistent with the unpleasantness that’s become part of OWTB elsewhere. Debate and discussion too often degenerates into something that I’d walk away from if it was in public. Anyway, at a time of general misery surrounding Latics , we need the PL to cheer us up (even when my hoped for first scorer misses a sitter.