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And I think there lies one major problem at the club. Those who have been brought up on a higher level of football have deserted the club, you can tell by the lack of groups of blokes in their 30s and 40s which follow us. There is a lot of young teenage fans and old fans (who will go week in week out regardless). If we cant get these people to come back then the club needs to put all its efforts into attracting a new generation of fans who will get behind the team at this level and put money into the club.

From 1936 to 1974 bar one season we graced the bottom 2 divisions!!! Why the hell didn't they just shut the bloody club down then

While yes it is sales and cold calling, it is not as if the club is ringing up people trying to flog them products they are not interested in like a double glazing firm. They are ringing people who have had season tickets at Oldham (so obviously have at somepoint been very loyal and interested in Latics) and are finding out why they have not renewed and if they would be interested in a half season ticket offer. I hadnt heard of the half season ticket off before and I think my dad and bro may take it up so thumbs up to the club from me.

I would argue that Leeds Norwich Southampton are much better teams than the others in this division. After the Southampton Norwich game both managers said there was enough quality for the Championship on the pitch. To no get anything from these games with our current squad is not as bad as it seems. There is still time to pick up points off these and others though with not even half a season gone. We shouldnt give the top 6 teams 6 points because they are financially better off than us. But we shouldnt be so shocked if we get beat by these teams when they get themselves in order like they have done. We have had some great results against the top teams in recent seasons. Maybe they were taking a team like Oldham lightly and now they realise that they cant. Football is not all black and white.

Come on mate Hudds have spent :censored: loads of cash and Colchester have been in the Championship for a couple of seasons recently, I would expect them to now have a similar budget and fanbase to ours now. If you were using Colchester as a yardstick to show how badly this club has been mismanaged since the early 90s I would be right behind you but to use it against the current regime is way off the mark IMO.

Ive heard Dux will be in charge on Saturday.

Haha yeah, it was bizarre the area code is the same as where I grew up so thought it must have been a family member or mate ringing me from a house phone and it was Oldham Athletic with a scouse accent

Hes converted me GET DUXBURY IN PENNEY OUT we will walk the league easy.

Is this the same John Sheridan whose team was in freefall leaving Royle and Penney both struggling to pick up the pieces. Make no mistake if you take away the fortuitous good start last season we would have been in the mire. Just take a look at results at the end of last season you cannot just blame Penney for this team turning into relegation fodder. Out of todays starting line up, Smalley, Black, Lomax, Gregan, Stephens and Whitaker were all put under contract before Penney has come near the club.

Two of Royle, Sharp, Ritchie, Warnock, Wadsworth, Dowie, Sheridan, Eyres, Talbot, Moore, Philiskirk or Duxburry. It would be a dream management duo.

So you wouldnt have him in our team then over Whits, Furman, Worthington or any of the other :censored:e who makes up our Centre Midfield? Why so bitter? It cant be because you think he is a tosser, the majority of professional footballers are.

Me neither. It always makes me laugh the amount of people who come out saying how :censored: some of these players are when they leave or how bitter some people are when players move on to bigger and better things. Wellens, Kilkenny, Eardley, Killen, Porter and no doubt Taylor in the future have often been labelled not good enough on here and thats to name just a few.

Haha I couldnt think of a better slogan for our club at the moment As for the ground, I couldnt care less until I actually see what has been planned and even then if it doesnt even meet my expectations I know its still going to be a million times better than BP.

For me Whits was the problem last season and its the same again this season. When the going gets tough he doesnt go looking for the ball or put in the challenges. He can look very good when given space or against weaker opposition but I just dont think he is good enough to be playing week in week out at this level. You do have to wonder how bad the reserve midfielders must be though if he is keeping them out of the team. Quick edit to address the OP. I don't think Furman has anywhere near lived up to the hype, I am prepared to give him time but we will have to see. Good central midfielders are hard to get hold of at this level though. I think we have been spoiled in recent years with Wellens and Kilkenny and further back players like the Sheridans and Murray, Duxbury.

Then sack Stitch when nothing improves I take it. Then maybe give Dux a go... Not having a go, but to keep sacking managers is just ridiculous.

Daz I think your missing the one major factor in all of this. LEEDS ARE A VERY GOOD SIDE. No matter who or what people at our club did differently this was not going to change. I would hazard a guess with no Leeds fans there they would still be favourites and would have probably won. Just because we lost doesnt mean the players werent motivated or trying.

What I found odd last season was that Shez seemed to have decided that COG, Davies and Hughes and probably Alessandra too were going to be the main strikers. He even started COG and Davies in the first couple of games and then by Christmas 2 of them had been out on loan already. Did he really misjudge their abilities that much or is it problems behind the scenes. I cant think that there are too many clubs out there who get things that wrong.

I can see Heffernan being classed as :censored: in a couple of weeks on here I really can.

haha Diego! I always believed that but its a myth I tells ya! I got soaked the vs Hudds in the Chaddy this year!!

It has to be the RRE, although the Main Stand is quite good for comedy value, plus you can swear at Dave Penney when we lose!

haha you taking her to the game fents as a present?! She will be pleased!

Not saying we didnt do the right thing but didnt Davies go out on loan to another team in our division and score 6 in 7? I an see why people may have wanted him back..then when he came back by all accounts he looked sharp in his 2 sub appearances then got shipped off to Brighton? Its a funny game football. I'd wager its Davies attitude rather than footballing ability or goal scoring which has led to him being shown the door at numerous clubs.

Ive never thought his touch was that bad, more his ability to get that "half a yard" to get a shot in at our level, which means he isnt really that threatening. He has shown glimpses IMO that he could be a good targetman but then he has hardly played. So I suppose that could indicate that he isnt up to it. A strange one COG I would give him a chance however.

I dont think we were allowed too.

If he doesnt score in his first game no doubt he will be classed as :censored:! Please give him a chance people:)