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7 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

Popular belief:

They are excellent in training.

Reality:

They are hopeless on match days.

16 minutes ago, JohnnyPimp said:

I’ve been seeing loads of references to talking the ball on the half-turn (at least three times over the past few pages of this thread).

 

Please can someone educate this football-tactics dimwit as to what this means in practice?

Not being directly facing the teammate passing you the ball thus enabling you to turn towards the opposition goal and pass to another teammate further upfield or (saints preserve us) have a shot on goal !!

14 minutes ago, LightDN123 said:

 

Bollocks, thanks for the info.

 

Anyone know how to watch TNT games abroad ? 

Bar ??

12 minutes ago, TwistingMyMellon said:

 

I agree he hasn't been great but he hasn't been out of place in our team. We are garbage.

He's certainly helped in that respect !  

55 minutes ago, TheBigDog said:

What options does the ordinary fan have, when at a game, to express his/her displeasure when witnessing a horror show out on the pitch?

 

Watching the first half against Woking was embarrassing  - do the fans just accept it?

 

Maybe, instead of booing, we could adopt the white hankie approach used by Spanish fans? Or turn our backs to the pitch when the players are trooping off?

 

Nah… I may not boo individuals but the team as a whole are fair game…

Not disputing anyone's right to show their displeasure however they wish I was just attempting to show I was not one of the "Nuttall Boo Boys".

7 minutes ago, nzlatic said:

Horses for courses. I've no issue with Mellon not including players because he prefers runners. If Nuttall doesn't fit in with that then it's of course best for him to go and play somewhere more suited to his style.

 

I also don't have an issue with fans who prefer runners, we all have our own preferences. But what I do have an issue with is fans who declare a player as too lazy to be a footballer or talk in absolute terms about their mental state or desire or laziness. It's this sort of talk that leads to players getting booed on, or cheered when their number goes up on the subs board. 

I've defended Nuttall since his arrival to people sitting near me at BP and never booed my team or any of it's players but some footballer's attitudes don't help their cause.

1 hour ago, nzlatic said:

All that seems to be about what you want to see from a striker. 

 

Different strikers will have different styles. He didn't fit in with our fans and the way he was played didn't work that well. Clearly Darrell Clarke in league one thinks he might work out for them and he's got a decent record as a manager.

Not the be all and end all showing a bit of desire.

If someone was playing shit and swanning about but still scoring goals then OK, but to do the first bits and not score much, if at all, is next to useless. 

8 minutes ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said:

 

I'm still of the opinion that we never made best use of Nuttall and I don't think he's a bad player per se. On his debut he received a superb cross from the right hand side at Notts County which he clinically buried. He rarely received service like it. His style is languid, he won't run through brick walls for you but if the ball's put in Lee Johnson's famed "corridor of uncertainty" he'll normally bury it.

 

Hope he does well and revives his career.

So do I but to suggest his poor performances can be excused by the team's style of play is stretching it quite a bit.

Agreed his style is languid but it's is a very poor one for a central forward. They need to be busy chasing balls into the box or holding up the ball waiting for support, none of which he's seemed capable of. He has no great desire to score goals which is a pre-requisite in a centre forward.

Since Norwood arrived I've seen him slide in against the goalie whilst scoring against Chesterfield and follow up Dickenson's shot at Gateshead ending up in the back of the net with a defender, showing a yearning for goals that sadly Nuttall lacks. I can't remember Nuttall being off his feet much in any match.

I hope I'm wrong but he looks to lack the basic instinct to be a footballer. 

1 hour ago, nzlatic said:

Pleased for them both to get moves away. Never really understood why Nuttall got mostly grief and Willoughby got mostly sympathy for being treated badly. Is it the running around thing? Is it the perception that Willoughby is a young player with potential? (Nuttall is only 5 months older)

 

I would expect a couple more departures now the EFL window has closed. Shelton and Reid to NL clubs maybe?

 

Shelton does surprise me that he hasn’t had a look in at all under Mellon. Not sure how different he is to Lundstram. 

Difference is Nuttall has had plenty of chances and cruises through games and Willoughby's chances have been limited and he seemed to put a bit of effort in.

3 minutes ago, Sloshed Joe said:

Cheltenham just signed a striker from Forest Green. So Nuttall deal dead…?

Manager said a couple coming in so..........

38 minutes ago, Boyyou said:

Many reckon Fondop is a useful impact player off the bench so I  think he'll still have a part to play this season. 

In the longer term, Dallas is only on loan so I  can't see MM  starting next season with only two veterans up front in Norwood and Garner. Expect to see big Mike gone and two younger strikers in.

Garner gets 60 minutes then Fondop comes on. 

6 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

Sorry. Did someone speak to you? My point directly related to the player in question and the difference between standing out against kids and then playing v men. I don't see what you're taking issue with here.

Suppose we'll never know unless the lad gets a game.

I've not seen him play but would hope he's amongst those kids who get a chance when we're comfortably in the play-offs.

As you say it's a bit different playing men's football, as Sachdev is finding out presently.

3 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

I want to win whilst being entertained at the same time, with our resources it shouldn't be as unattainable as some of you are trying to make out.

Not unobtainable just not the priority for most.

5 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

there's a predicted finish time on the app which updates constantly.  Currently says  7.12am on 9 February

That's pretty precise for a pensioner rowing a boat !!  

Said on Look North West ( who are doing a great job keeping the general public up to date on a weekly basis ) last night he was scheduled to land in a couple of weeks.

5 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

How would you describe Hobson's running style?

Not noticed it really, just when Kitching's caught upfield or his winger takes him on he's not the quickest.

8 minutes ago, TheBigDog said:

First bad game from Kitching in a long time - though he is more of a wing back than a full back I think.

Yes he's been consistent going forwards all season but I'm not convinced defensively.

He's a bit like "Bambi on ice" and takes a while to get his feet moving. 

10 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

I think we still have an issue at rightback, I know two games is no time but the new lad looks so far off it at the minute, in the summer we need to find an established rightback as a priority.

Suppose it's a big step up from U21's to first team men's football.

He's a bit physically lightweight and not "bombed on" as much as I'd hoped he would, but hopefully will improve as he gains confidence.

It should remain a priority when the season ends and we clear the decks!

21 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

Play a back 4 and that leaves an extra space.

Not sure Kitching and Sachdev are up to playing full backs after Saturday's performances.

15 minutes ago, LightDN123 said:

 

I agree he could play the 10 role, he has for Vale, but I don’t think he will play that role for us to be honest. 
 

Probably dropping back as a result of his match fitness and recent injury record ?

7 minutes ago, Monty Burns said:

to me it looks like they wouldnt ever leave. Luke and Sue seem determined to become ensconced in both the fabric of the town and its re upholstering its amazing. we had years of pure spite and hatred from the OMBC and Franks clan have run a bath for that now things are buzzin

Bit over the top even for you Monty !  

1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott said:

He did. But the poster said he's never been lower than a 6 out of 10 for Latics. Myself and @oafcmetty were just pointing out that he has been...

He actually said you'd be hard pushed to find a performance less than 6 out of 10.

You passed the test ! 

9 minutes ago, The Greek said:

And yet he’s got a university degree!

He does lack a bit of football nous though.

3 minutes ago, LightDN123 said:

The ball sticks to him as he holds players off with his physicality, but he does struggle went passed into his feet in my opinion. 
 

He’s a good option for us. 

Would agree he's a good option ( off the bench ) but his positional sense is very poor for a professional striker, constantly having to be told where to be.

His lack of desire to be in and around the six yard box is a big drawback for a striker. Last night when Norwood headed a cross back across goal he was near the edge of the penalty area instead of on the penalty spot seeking a tap-in.

5 minutes ago, whittles left foot said:

Yep. 83 I think and member of our local cricket club.

Good news, pass on my regards to him ( he used to swap info about the dogs whilst "nicking" a toffee from our table !  ).

Don't know if his mate Peter is a cricket member also but enjoyed their company.