Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) 9 points behind Tranmere, 2 games in hand and we've still got to play them here at BP. This game was always going to be a toughy 4 home games out of our next 5, if we have Hughesy back for next week it'll be a major boost. H Swindon Town A Port Vale H Hartlepool H Tranmere H Bournemouth Each home one we should be looking to win. Port Vale is a tricky one, we never win there BUT they are slump bottom are just aren't playing well. KTF! Edited February 23, 2008 by Bring Back Pukka Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Dog Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I'd like to share your optimism, but it just doesn't look like happening. If Hughesy gets back in the reckoning asap and finds some very good form then it might....just might...be possible to go on a run. That run needs to start on Tuesday though. Personally, I think the season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 We've won 3 home games on the bounce and I don't see that changing just because of a poor performance at Brighton when in fairness our main goal threat went off in the 27th minute. A draw would have been nice, lukcily for us Tranmere didn't capitalise and they are still in reaching distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tactically_naive Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I'd love to think we can make it but I just can't see it. Our home form has definitely improved but I just can't see us going on a consistent run which will accrue enough points to get into the top 6. We still lack creativity and, even with Hughes back, I think we will continue to struggle to score consistently week in, week out. I'd love to be proven wrong and will be watching the boys all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 If we win 5 out of the next 7, its back on. But I very much doubt we will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie_Dugger Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 No....... Strikers left No....... Experience on the bench No....... Movement in the loan transfer market No....... TV/Cup run money spent No....... replacement for Pogs No....... Replacement for Ricketts No....... Way will we see Taylor on the right wing No....... Chance of the play-offs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 Is there any news on Davies? Talk about jumping the gun, it's one defeat, in the greater scope of things this was the second hardest match we had remaining. Aint nothing over til it's over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philliggi Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 the simple fact is we have to win all those games. especially swindon and tranmere, as well as the other game in hand ( i dont know which that is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) We don't have to win all those games. We have to win the majority of a home games and get a few results away. One loss in the great scope of things doesn't mess it up, it's still those run of home matches which matter. Especially seeing how Tranmere drew. We still have 2 games in hand on them and still have to play them. If we win we'll be level with them! Edited February 23, 2008 by Bring Back Pukka Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 All hinges on how fast Hughes can get back into the flow of things now i feel.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie_Dugger Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Is there any news on Davies? Talk about jumping the gun, it's one defeat, in the greater scope of things this was the second hardest match we had remaining. Aint nothing over til it's over. Think it's 3 defeats in the last three away games. And we always struggle against teams we should beat easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murrayzmint Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 No....... Strikers left No....... Experience on the bench No....... Movement in the loan transfer market No....... TV/Cup run money spent No....... replacement for Pogs No....... Replacement for Ricketts No....... Way will we see Taylor on the right wing No....... Chance of the play-offs As pessimistic as your post is, it is, unfortunately, spot-on. We do seem to have given up on the striker front and it is annoying (usually the way things go in football) that a striker signed from a relatively local club has undone us today. Especially with Ricketts dispensed with. Today we were left with two players up front, who probably, in all honesty, should be still mixing it in the reserves as well as occasionally playing in the first team. If Davies is not fit for Tuesday, then we are definitely going to struggle. The loss of Pogliacomi is bad news, but was he ever going to get another chance anyway? If Crossley gets crocked, then we are in it neck-deep. Let's get to 52 points before we start ruing any slim chance of the playoffs disappearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 9 points behind Tranmere, 2 games in hand and we've still got to play them here at BP. This game was always going to be a toughy 4 home games out of our next 5, if we have Hughesy back for next week it'll be a major boost. H Swindon Town A Port Vale H Hartlepool H Tranmere H Bournemouth Each home one we should be looking to win. Port Vale is a tricky one, we never win there BUT they are slump bottom are just aren't playing well. KTF! To many if's and but's...I feel we had to get something from the game today and we didn't, Allesandra's been a breath of fresh air and been playing really well but like Smalley how many goals has he scored? Take away the threat of Davies and Hughes and you just can't see where goals are are going to come from, look at the bench today.....5 kids and nobody to throw on and change the game. Missing out on promotion this season would not be a disaster in my opinion as we would need 5 or 6 players just to stay up and we've seen how long a new team needs to gel together and we just wouldn't get the time in the championship. We could make a real challenge next season when the kids would be a year older and wiser. We need to score more goals next year it's as simple as that.... and as well as Davies has done this season, next year we will need a partnership up front and I think Shez has got some tough decisions to make to remedy this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tactically_naive Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I know I've banged on about this before, but we still haven't replaced Wellens and lack creativity in midfield. We struggle to break-down defences, especially at home when they park the coach in front of the goal, and desperately need someone in midfield who can make the killer pass for the likes of Hughes and Davies to run onto. That, plus the lack of decent crosses into the box (no Lids, Taylor's final balls are poor) means we're gonna struggle to seriously contend for promotion. Then again, I am a doom and gloomer and should be shot like a dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofdikebab Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) 9 points behind Tranmere, 2 games in hand and we've still got to play them here at BP. This game was always going to be a toughy 4 home games out of our next 5, if we have Hughesy back for next week it'll be a major boost. H Swindon Town A Port Vale H Hartlepool H Tranmere H Bournemouth Each home one we should be looking to win. Port Vale is a tricky one, we never win there BUT they are slump bottom are just aren't playing well. KTF! I think you are bang on with that post. 4 out of next 5 at home against very average or poor sides (Tranmere ain't great are they!) and the away game is at bottom of the league (ok I know they are our bogey side but they are the worst side in the league FACT). Win Tuesday and it's still very much a possibility. I wouldn't be saying that if this league wasn't absolute tosh but it is so anything can still happen. I don't think we are great, not by any stretch but in my eyes we can still compete against the likes of Walsall and Tranmere. Long long long way to go. Glass half full KOTK. Edited February 23, 2008 by Kingofdikebab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drphibes Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I think you are bang on with that post. 4 out of next 5 at home against very average or poor sides (Tranmere ain't great are they!) and the away game is at bottom of the league (ok I know they are our bogey side but they are the worst side in the league FACT). Win Tuesday and it's still very much a possibility. I wouldn't be saying that if this league wasn't absolute tosh but it is so anything can still happen. I don't think we are great, not by any stretch but in my eyes we can still compete against the likes of Walsall and Tranmere. Long long long way to go. Glass half full KOTK. Unless we bring in a striker the pattern of results will probably continue until the end of the season. Alessandra and Smalley are ones for the future and it really is a bit of a joke that we find ourselves in the position of having to play them. The club need to look outside the Championship for signings because they constantly tell us that they cannot afford the wages from that division. I am not accepting that there are no players in div 1 and 2 who have experience and could do a job for us. Drphibes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Unless we bring in a striker the pattern of results will probably continue until the end of the season. Alessandra and Smalley are ones for the future and it really is a bit of a joke that we find ourselves in the position of having to play them. The club need to look outside the Championship for signings because they constantly tell us that they cannot afford the wages from that division. I am not accepting that there are no players in div 1 and 2 who have experience and could do a job for us. Drphibes its still possible,highly unlikely but possible,todays game was never going to make or break our season,just dissapointing that our away form has now dipped. i think in total fairness if shez is still shouting we can do it and still positive,then i would like to see a striker brought in to do this.if hughes is still a week maybe 2 off,and davies injurie is serious,we are very short of experienced cover. if we dont bring someone in then im affraid we will just splutter on until its mathematically impossible. still hoping we do it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpo Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 It only becomes unrealistic when the amount of points you need to catch up per match exceeds games left. Chins up, lads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parigby Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 It's the clarity of thought that l don't get. Last day of the transfer window we are busting a gut to sign a striker. That seems to tell me that the Manager, remember him, the bloke in charge of the playing side of things, he that moulds the team etc, etc, thinks we really do need another a striker. We don't sign one. Never mind one week later we can enter the loan market. One week later, we do not seem to be busting a gut to sign a striker ! Our requirements are as clear now as they were in the transfer window. As with regard to todays results, and the posts from various people about it only being one game. The problem with results like this at this stage in the season, is that they become a little more important. We are, whether we like it or not, running out of games. All this talk about playoffs, to my mind is a little premature - was it not York who a few seasons ago were relegated on either 52 or 53 points ! But then l've been here for fifty five years and have had substantially more downs than ups, therefore l do tend to be a bit of a realist. Talk about the play offs once that mental barrier is overcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parigby Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Make that fifty eight years. The wife always says l'm in denial when it comes to my age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 We need a striker who is going to be at the club throughout the playoffs as well. No point getting a striker in now who will have to leave before the end of the normal season and then hope we can win the play offs without him! I know it's not the latics way to be patient but we seriously have to be. I won't expect any loan signings coming in until mid/late March at the earliest. We still have a chance of the play offs but we need to go on a run of winning game, not winning one and losing the next and the sooner we we can do that the stronger our position will be. Think one lesson Shez will have learned from this season is the squad some more experienced squad players in the squad, we've realied on our youth players far too much this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 We need a striker who is going to be at the club throughout the playoffs as well. No point getting a striker in now who will have to leave before the end of the normal season and then hope we can win the play offs without him! I know it's not the latics way to be patient but we seriously have to be. I won't expect any loan signings coming in until mid/late March at the earliest. We still have a chance of the play offs but we need to go on a run of winning game, not winning one and losing the next and the sooner we we can do that the stronger our position will be. Think one lesson Shez will have learned from this season is the squad some more experienced squad players in the squad, we've realied on our youth players far too much this season. if we dont bring one in we wont be in the playoffs come may,i understand your reasoning,and it makes sense to wait,but honestly if we do and dont pick up points with both recognised strikers injured,forget the end of season extras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLH1993 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 spoke to davies in stafford services - hes done his hamstring so should probably be out for about 4 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meat pie sausage roll Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 (edited) Cheer up lads. Don't get me wrong i'm as disappointed as anyone because I realised the importance of a good result today especially with the fixtures we have coming up. We have beaten 5 of the top 6 teams in league one this season so we've proved we can compete against the best teams in the league and we have not lost against a team in the bottom 7, all to play again. I'm afraid i'm one of those annoying optimists, but thats why I love the game so much. You never know whats going to happen. So enjoy and get behind the team. We've still everything to play for. Edited February 24, 2008 by meat pie sausage roll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meat pie sausage roll Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Think realism is starting to hit home, we have no consistancy, yeah tranmere are 9 points off but that means we have to win a fair few in a row and hope that they carry on dropping points. We played better today, but no away goal in open play in the league since New Years Day is worrying. But the next 5 games will make or break it for sure, still think its possible and i'll keep hoping untill its not mathmatically possible but i just can't see it. Yeh I know but lets hang onto the dream for now. If we could just get a decent run and with Hughsie, greegs and lids all back we could just be the team that takes the form into the play offs. With the run of fixtures coming up, I feel that in 5 games time we will be higher up the league than we are now. How much higher we will have to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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