razza699 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Ah thats ok then !!!! if you elbow or assault anyone be it on the pitch or off it with the 'intent' of hurting causing concussion or fracturing skulls ..... its an offence !!! If it was one of our players or supporters ... blood would be bayed for... there is no room in any sport or in any walk of life (exception is boxing) where its acceptable to physically hurt the opposing team !!! its wrong end of read up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I suppose if he did intentionally elbow him i dont think he ment to break is skull Well elbowing a player like that isn't intended just to frighten him is it? He's done it all of his career and i hope the league throw the book at him! Somehow i doubt it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadam Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I went to Oakwell on Saturday for Barnsley Watford, Anyone would of thought Morgan had shot Hume, Chants of if you all hate Morgan and Morgan your a w**** etc, Also flags saying Justice for Hume, Also racism, if anyone thinks BP is racist then you havent seen anything like it, Oligana there big number 9 you dont want to know what they were shouting at him!! Stupid Yorkshiremen There is a bit of abuse but no racism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footy68 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Lags is 100%, Morgan knew what he was doing and deserves at the very least assault charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 There is a bit of abuse but no racism. So you bl*ack b*stard isnt racist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Having seen only a very poor quality video of it on You Tube, (so I'm not aware of the exact facts but i can make an educated guess) Hume seems to have had a similar injury to Cech's last season (against Reading). I think Morgan deserves a ban, but as for assault charges then everytime someone gets sent off for punching someone, deliberately elbowing them, or deliberately putting in a bad tackle (ala Roy Keane) then they deserve assault charges too and that's at any level of football. Assault is assault and whilst I'm not saying its right people can die from badly broken legs as well as fractured skulls. As to the fractured skull, some of the skull bones are easier (in terms of force required) to break than more commonly broken bones but its harder to do so because of the angle needed and the relevant frequency of the injury. Hume was unfortunate that he got hit hard enough to break a bone at one of the few places where the human anatomy is badly designed and this broken bone probably led to an incident to a very important artery (the middle meningeal artery). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Regardless of whether it actually does result in serious damage, the rules (and the law) are there because there is a good chance of it doing so. It's pretty hard to fracture a skull, but it's a lot easier to smash a nose all over the place or break a jaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footy68 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Let's say we were out and I decided to force a well aimed elbow into the side of your head, how do you think the CPP would view it? I think they would decide I have assaulted you which has resulted in actual bodily harm. It wasn't exactly a tackle was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I agree is was a bad elbow, but i dont think Morgan went into that challenge thinkin I will put this guy in hospital, 9 time out of 10 it would be concussion and a 3 match ban , however I tjhink it was a freak # Oh well I suppose thats alright then. Morgan is a nasty piece of work and deserves to have the book thrown at him. He knew what he was doing. Maybe he didnt intend to fracture his skull, but he definitley meant to hurt him, so he should be severely punished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 ...Try spending 90 mins in the park end at goodison. Mate of mine had a spare ticket for the game yesterday vs boro which I took. four minutes into the game... "arteta your f*****g useless" "yakubu you lazy c*** run for the ball" (again aimed at yakubu) "you should be pulling a f*****g cart" another one or two racist comments too aimed at yakubu (not skin colour, but jibes re his african heritage should we say)" Makes some of our fans look timid with their abuse!!! Everton do seem to attract more than their fair share of people with anger management issues. Had the pleasure of sitting in the Gwladys St end for the cup game. While i wasn't surprised at the bloke sat next to me screaming abuse at Lee Hughes for the whole of the first half, i wasn't really expecting him to yell "f***ing put some f***ing effort into it you fat c**t" at the bloke doing the half time hit-the-bar competition. Some of the other gems from Goodison that i've heard from my Evertonian mates include "Feed the Yak? He's been fed enough, the fat b*stard" (again at Yakubu) and, against Bolton, "F**k off Campo you Spanish gypsy Jew". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Everton do seem to attract more than their fair share of people with anger management issues. Had the pleasure of sitting in the Gwladys St end for the cup game. While i wasn't surprised at the bloke sat next to me screaming abuse at Lee Hughes for the whole of the first half, i wasn't really expecting him to yell "f***ing put some f***ing effort into it you fat c**t" at the bloke doing the half time hit-the-bar competition. Some of the other gems from Goodison that i've heard from my Evertonian mates include "Feed the Yak? He's been fed enough, the fat b*stard" (again at Yakubu) and, against Bolton, "F**k off Campo you Spanish gypsy Jew". There were a few funny videos on Youtube from our cup game of fans getting irate. One video inparticular of a guy behind the goal was great value...it was the Joe Kinnear version of being a fan. I think it's possibly the shadow of LFC that makes them more desperate to succeed...and more fickle. Ala Man :censored:ty with the Red Scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 There were a few funny videos on Youtube from our cup game of fans getting irate. One video inparticular of a guy behind the goal was great value...it was the Joe Kinnear version of being a fan.That video was quality, it was a couple of rows behind where i was....sounded like an excerpt from the John's Not Mad documentary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 "F**k off Campo you Spanish gypsy Jew". Something for everyone in there I bet Campo hates himself in so many different ways! Funniest thing of all season was the Everton scallies shadowing the OASIS and other random stragglers down the road back to the station. We would never have even known they were there had I not happened to observe one of their tactical briefings whilst I was, erm, checking that everything was OK behind a tree. Apparently they were going to take us at one of the junctions, except the entirely invisible police escort was looking after us. Fortunately, about 25 mostly well fed grown up men made it through the gauntlet of 12 teenage chavs with no loss other than one egg dropping near us. Phew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 So you bl*ack b*stard isnt racist? Not when directed at a black man without a father. Something for everyone in there I bet Campo hates himself in so many different ways! Funniest thing of all season was the Everton scallies shadowing the OASIS and other random stragglers down the road back to the station. We would never have even known they were there had I not happened to observe one of their tactical briefings whilst I was, erm, checking that everything was OK behind a tree. Apparently they were going to take us at one of the junctions, except the entirely invisible police escort was looking after us. Fortunately, about 25 mostly well fed grown up men made it through the gauntlet of 12 teenage chavs with no loss other than one egg dropping near us. Phew. Brilliant aren't they? Still, Liverpool is not a place to go messing about. Sounds like you encountered the bandwagon! Having said that, I think I'd rather get cracked than egged!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonBlueLad Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 True - the loudest I've ever heard the Chaddy End was when blue moon was coming out of it during that 4-0 drubbing in the friendly a good few years ago.... It was 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 It was 6. Just a quick update, seen the challenge on SSN yesterday and yes its a shocker, didnt realise it was that bad on fuzzy youtube footage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Something for everyone in there I bet Campo hates himself in so many different ways! Funniest thing of all season was the Everton scallies shadowing the OASIS and other random stragglers down the road back to the station. We would never have even known they were there had I not happened to observe one of their tactical briefings whilst I was, erm, checking that everything was OK behind a tree. Apparently they were going to take us at one of the junctions, except the entirely invisible police escort was looking after us. Fortunately, about 25 mostly well fed grown up men made it through the gauntlet of 12 teenage chavs with no loss other than one egg dropping near us. Phew. I'm glad you're finally able to talk about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Dog Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Don't know if you was there, but the roof certainly didn't drown out the noise that day - it was the game when they were presented with their 2nd Div championship medals on our pitch. I'm no City fan, but noise wise, they were very very loud. I was there and as per usual saw a lot of City fans in the Chaddy - more than usual actually....but in respect of how loud they were I think you're exaggerating a touch mate. For me, nothing compares to the Chaddy End roars from 89 - 91. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy_Fent Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 (edited) what would of helped the Chaddy was if everyone in there was singing rather than just 1 small section, the loudest I can recall was against QPR in the play-offs as everyone was getting involved. For decent support, you should see SV Wehen Wisebaden when I went to watch them the other week, bottom of the league with the side low on confidence they still filled their ground with the majority of the fans kept singing for 90 minutes solid, the day BP is like that in similar circumstances is the day Satan wins the Winter Olympic goal in figure skating Edited November 18, 2008 by Tommy_Fent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neiladamsheadband Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 not really concerned wiv other fans but yes, certain of our fans do get onthe backs far to quickly for my liking, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy_Fent Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I blame the weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I blame the weather I blame the sudden increase in supermarkets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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