Latics_Al Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Soccer star denies drink driving 26/ 1/2009 OLDHAM Athletic's captain Sean Gregan appeared before magistrates today (Monday) accused of drink driving on a motorway. Mr Gregan, captain of the League One side, pleaded not guilty at Rochdale to a single charge of driving with excess alcohol. The case was adjourned to March 27, two days before his 35th birthday. Mr Gregan, 34, of Hereford Road, Harrogate, spoke only to confirm his name, address and enter his plea during the brief hearing. It was alleged he was driving a Volkswagon Golf on the M62, near Rochdale, on October 3. A pre-trial hearing was listed for March and Mr Gregan was excused attendance. He was released on unconditional bail. Mr Gregan, a midfielder and defender, has made more than 600 career appearances in English football leagues, scoring 21 goals. He signed for Oldham Athletic on a two-and-a-half year contract in January 2007. He began his career at Darlington, followed by spells at Preston North End, West Bromwich Albion and Leeds United. MEN Story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 MEN Story Pleaded not guilty ? Surely he was either over or under the limit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Hang about, wasn’t the story doing the rounds that he was dropping his kids off? Not in Rochdale I wouldn’t have thought. Anyway, now my brothers’ missus will know where he lives. Binoculars at the ready... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Al Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Hang about, wasn’t the story doing the rounds that he was dropping his kids off? Not in Rochdale I wouldn’t have thought. Anyway, now my brothers’ missus will know where he lives. Binoculars at the ready... euphemism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 wouldn't that be dump driving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Pleaded not guilty ? Surely he was either over or under the limit ? refused to give breath sample? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 refused to give breath sample? Isn't that a criminal offence in its own right ? Surely you would only refuse if you had something to hide.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Isn't that a criminal offence in its own right ? Surely you would only refuse if you had something to hide.... I don't think refusing a breath test is an offence but refusing a blood test is ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Isn't that a criminal offence in its own right ? Surely you would only refuse if you had something to hide.... It is a right not to give a sample - As far as Im aware it is the "recommended" thing to do if you know you are over the limit... I think the bans can be less - as for the something to hide you're probably right but if it is a loophole you're not going to plead guilty after refusal - I suspect a bans inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyldelatic Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) It is a right not to give a sample - As far as Im aware it is the "recommended" thing to do if you know you are over the limit... I think the bans can be less - as for the something to hide you're probably right but if it is a loophole you're not going to plead guilty after refusal - I suspect a bans inevitable. It's still an offence to refuse roadside breath test and you can be arrested, but it doesn't lead to automatic disqualification (DR70, fine and 4 points). But refusing further test at the police station is an offence (DR30), with the same penalty as someone giving a positive result, i.e. mandatory 12 months minimum disqualification and a fine (up to level 5 or £5k) or imprisonment up to 6 months (DR10), but often the court can impose even harsher penalty like 18 months to 2 years ban, because drivers who refuse a test may be hiding a very high level of alcohol. Edited January 26, 2009 by Fyldelatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytrap Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 MEN Story 21 GOALS????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 It's still an offence to refuse roadside breath test and you can be arrested, but it doesn't lead to automatic disqualification (DR70, fine and 4 points). But refusing further test at the police station is an offence (DR30), with the same penalty as someone giving a positive result, i.e. mandatory 12 months minimum disqualification and a fine (up to level 5 or £5k) or imprisonment up to 6 months (DR10), but often the court can impose even harsher penalty like 18 months to 2 years ban, because drivers who refuse a test may be hiding a very high level of alcohol. So for the police to have taken him to court there will be a breath test on record taken at the nick which proves he was over the limit.... or He refused the breath test and he is in the :censored: regardless.... Just confused how the hell he is going to get away with pleading not guilty... Unless of course he didn't give a sample and is hoping to take the 12 months, 5k fine etc... As far as I am concerned if he did drink and drive hope he gets ten years.... I have little tolerance on the subject... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Midfielder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Midfielder? Erm, yes... For nearly all his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Erm, yes... For nearly all his career. Not now though haha not after seeing him in the cup this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Maybe there's a technicality that is being exploited. There's a solicitor who specialises in defending footballers and others on the grounds of incorrect police procedures etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Maybe there's a technicality that is being exploited. There's a solicitor who specialises in defending footballers and others on the grounds of incorrect police procedures etc. Wonderful.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Maybe there's a technicality that is being exploited. There's a solicitor who specialises in defending footballers and others on the grounds of incorrect police procedures etc. He gets ManUre players off all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Maybe there's a technicality that is being exploited. There's a solicitor who specialises in defending footballers and others on the grounds of incorrect police procedures etc. That would be Mr Loophole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 As far as I am concerned if he did drink and drive hope he gets ten years.... I have little tolerance on the subject... If I was ever caught drink driving my defence would be that I was drunk and I would never do such a thing sober. On the few occasions long ago that I commited the offence that has been the reason. Whilst I too hate drink driving I recognise the irony in allowing, encouraging even, people to drink before persecuting them for their drunken decisions. The fundamental problem lies with the lax laws on one of the most dangerous and harmful drugs in society. In the mean time those who wish to sit at home and smoke a spliff, maybe enjoy a takeaway, are now to be persecuted even further than before as cannabis is reclassified as Class B, and so a huge percentage of the population is further criminalised in the process. Ranking of Drugs by Danger Surprised? The problem is that the attitude of embracing alchohol and prohibiting other drugs is so accepted and ingrained that few realise just how bizzare the scenario is. I wonder how much money the NHS would save if the populations usage of numbers 5 and 18 were reversed? I wonder how much police time would be saved, tax revenue generated and crime cut if 11 was legalised? I think absolutely everything on that list ought to be legal. The lot. If an individual wants to take something who is the government to stop them? How can smoking weed be a crime? How can there be a crime when there is no victim, your honour? Drugs is one of the very biggest industries in the world, I'd bet only behind food and oil - I mean an ounce of cocaine is worth more than an ounce of gold. If this vast revenue isn't tapped into by the powers that be, and I don't mean by the puppets that are Brown and Obama, then I'm a Dutchman (I wish). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outoftheblue Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 As far as I am concerned if he did drink and drive hope he gets ten years.... I have little tolerance on the subject... As I recall from the Congestion charge posts, you have little tolerance for ANY kind of driving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Sounds to me like some someone needs a nice calming cigarette... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 So for the police to have taken him to court there will be a breath test on record taken at the nick which proves he was over the limit.... or He refused the breath test and he is in the :censored: regardless.... Just confused how the hell he is going to get away with pleading not guilty... Unless of course he didn't give a sample and is hoping to take the 12 months, 5k fine etc... As far as I am concerned if he did drink and drive hope he gets ten years.... I have little tolerance on the subject... Does that include a glass of wine taken with a meal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Does that include a glass of wine taken with a meal? I hate point scorers.... I clearly meant if they go over the legal limit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 As I recall from the Congestion charge posts, you have little tolerance for ANY kind of driving True :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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