Corporal_Jones Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) I have to say Corporal that I agree with 99% of your posts but you really do need to change your subject of doom and gloom........your answer is always the same.... you may as well just say in future.........."Please refer to my previous posts" as it would save you alot of retype!!!!! I can hardly respond to what I see as blind optimism with anything else, though, can I? As said before in response to such charges, nearly everybody on boards like this has a certain dominant view that they constantly reiterate. Edited May 28, 2009 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footy68 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Why blind optimism? Is it not also known as hope? You know kind of like the hope God botherers have that there is something else on the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I can hardly respond to what I see as blind optimism with anything else, though, can I? As said before in response to such charges, nearly everybody on boards like this has a certain dominant view that they constantly reiterate. There is optimism and there is blind optimism, we know things aint rosey but come on Corp, as has been previously stated I agree with a fair few of your posts, but flipside of the coin, could what your saying not be seen as blind pessimism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 When I posted about getting one's ST before the queue on Wednesday and Thursday of this week, my advice was scrned: What queue will that be. There will be no queue. Particularly not during the week when the majority of people (bar us with jobs in education) are at work. we are a massive club though luke, …..! i might go tomorrow just to make sure that i can get one, dont want to miss out!!! Then I read these: Went and paid for mine today, there were a few people in the queue in front of me and there were people queueing behind me too. Came past the club at 10:30ish a healthy Q at ticket office...... Every Penny helps...lol There was no queue when I posted my renewal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Why blind optimism? Is it not also known as hope? You know kind of like the hope God botherers have that there is something else on the other side. I hope for the same things for the club as the blindest of optimists. However, there is currently no reason at all to expect these things to materialise. I merely offer a view as to why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) There is optimism and there is blind optimism, we know things aint rosey but come on Corp, as has been previously stated I agree with a fair few of your posts, but flipside of the coin, could what your saying not be seen as blind pessimism? No. I've already said several times that Penney sounds like he knows what he's talking about and comes with a good record. I wish him well. However, we have seen such people people before and they haven't been able to overcome the negative wider picture. Edited May 28, 2009 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 No. I've already said several times that Penney sounds like he knows what he's talking about and comes with a good record. I wish him well. However, we have seen such people people before and they haven't been able to overcome the negative wider picture. Can I just point out that, and I'm trusting Harry's figures as he's never let us down before, you were right? With a decline of 500-1000 sales I'd suggest that lends itself more to your theory of apathy than mine of economy. Both are valid but this new data reduces my arguments strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Can I just point out that, and I'm trusting Harry's figures as he's never let us down before, you were right? With a decline of 500-1000 sales I'd suggest that lends itself more to your theory of apathy than mine of economy. Both are valid but this new data reduces my arguments strength. Decent of you to say so. I think it's demoralisation rather than apathy, however. The ongoing decline punctuated by false dawns... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footy68 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I won't be renewing, for the simple reason on average it's as cost effective for me to pay on the day as buy a season ticket, i miss approx 5 homers a season for various reasons....but it doesn't mean I won't be at every game I can get to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I won't be renewing, for the simple reason on average it's as cost effective for me to pay on the day as buy a season ticket, i miss approx 5 homers a season for various reasons....but it doesn't mean I won't be at every game I can get to. So you are what I would consider an ideal candidate for the 5/7/10game ticket. This works in that you buy a ticket book and you can use them for ANY game of the league season. For any games which somehow look like sell outs you can have a process where a person must exchange their ticket for another ticket at the ground the week before to avoid "double booking" and doing this gets you a small discount on the gate price and gives Latics some cash in hand ahead of time. What do you think of the idea? Is it something you would use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I won't be renewing, for the simple reason on average it's as cost effective for me to pay on the day as buy a season ticket, i miss approx 5 homers a season for various reasons....but it doesn't mean I won't be at every game I can get to. I too miss on average five home games but that does not stop me renewing for the simple reason that I have a brilliant seat which I do not want to lose. (Okay - it is in the Main stand surrounded by 'old' people but it is on the front row directly above the tunnel - it's like watching the match on tele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Dowds Green Shirt Posted May 28, 2009 Author Share Posted May 28, 2009 So you are what I would consider an ideal candidate for the 5/7/10game ticket. This works in that you buy a ticket book and you can use them for ANY game of the league season. For any games which somehow look like sell outs you can have a process where a person must exchange their ticket for another ticket at the ground the week before to avoid "double booking" and doing this gets you a small discount on the gate price and gives Latics some cash in hand ahead of time. What do you think of the idea? Is it something you would use? No Cheers, Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie_m'gurk Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 No Cheers, Harry It will finish up at the usual 3000 mark. I went to the club twice today and there was over 10 in the Q both times. People will always leave it til last min. I renewed all the lads tickets today - 6 of us! im sure many will do the same. KTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 No Cheers, Harry I was asking Martin seeing as he doesn't have a ST mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footy68 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Probably would. If I was still in the Lookers I'd have renewed for the same reason as The Dig Dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I won't be renewing, for the simple reason on average it's as cost effective for me to pay on the day as buy a season ticket, i miss approx 5 homers a season for various reasons....but it doesn't mean I won't be at every game I can get to. Ditto..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 So you are what I would consider an ideal candidate for the 5/7/10game ticket. This works in that you buy a ticket book and you can use them for ANY game of the league season. For any games which somehow look like sell outs you can have a process where a person must exchange their ticket for another ticket at the ground the week before to avoid "double booking" and doing this gets you a small discount on the gate price and gives Latics some cash in hand ahead of time. What do you think of the idea? Is it something you would use? Yes, I'd be interested in this..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I hope for the same things for the club as the blindest of optimists. However, there is currently no reason at all to expect these things to materialise. I merely offer a view as to why. Well, here we go agin CJ. So, we've gone from years and years of decline, to now being at "no reason at all". Good god, if you hope for the same things as the blindest of optimists, it's a bleak outlook they have. I must be in some sort of senseless (all 5 purported senses) optimist category then. We've surely more hope than most of lg 1? Still at least we've gone from an assured decline to no hope of progression. That must be a move forward. No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) Well, here we go agin CJ. So, we've gone from years and years of decline, to now being at "no reason at all". Good god, if you hope for the same things as the blindest of optimists, it's a bleak outlook they have. I must be in some sort of senseless (all 5 purported senses) optimist category then. We've surely more hope than most of lg 1? Still at least we've gone from an assured decline to no hope of progression. That must be a move forward. No? You seem to be just looking for an argument for the sake of it now. There is no difference between an assured decline and no hope of progression (except maybe the latter could result in stagnation, which usually leads to decline), although what I actually said was not that there is no hope, just that I don't see any reason for it. In what way does that rule out my wishing for all the same things for the club as the optimists? Why have we 'surely more hope than most of League One? ' Edited May 29, 2009 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-Mist Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 ok - gone and done the dirty deed and got ST today against my better judgement (even gave up spiritual home of Chaddy for midst of RRE ) ! . Totally down to 1 or 2 posts on here that gave me hope and thoughts of new dawn after the Shez loanees/old boys club fiasco. Mainly the author of this thread mr Harry Dowds Shirt - hope I dont regret it ! Onwards and upwards !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 ok - gone and done the dirty deed and got ST today against my better judgement (even gave up spiritual home of Chaddy for midst of RRE ) ! . Totally down to 1 or 2 posts on here that gave me hope and thoughts of new dawn after the Shez loanees/old boys club fiasco. Mainly the author of this thread mr Harry Dowds Shirt - hope I dont regret it ! Onwards and upwards !!! oops sorry if I contributed too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 ive purchased my 1st season ticket but i am only able to make the friday night and saturday games but seeing as the missus also goes and the amount i would spend on tickets at the weekend is equivalent to a season ticket ill give her the weekday matches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadam Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 You seem to be just looking for an argument for the sake of it now. There is no difference between an assured decline and no hope of progression (except maybe the latter could result in stagnation, which usually leads to decline), although what I actually said was not that there is no hope, just that I don't see any reason for it. In what way does that rule out my wishing for all the same things for the club as the optimists? Why have we 'surely more hope than most of League One? ' There is difference between decline and not progressing. I would rather be a club that is not progressing which we are at the moment. We are certainly not too big for this league. We have been here for a number of years. In fact we have been in league 1 longer than anyone else. I think we deserve a promotion but things don't work like that keep the faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky_Latic Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 When I posted about getting one's ST before the queue on Wednesday and Thursday of this week, my advice was scrned: There was no queue when I posted my renewal. There was also no queue at 10am this morning when I went for mine at Boundary Park. Done and back walking up sheepfoot lane within 3 minutes. What rush!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 There was also no queue at 10am this morning when I went for mine at Boundary Park. Done and back walking up sheepfoot lane within 3 minutes. What rush!! Ian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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