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No Stu left on Wed, Gordon is looking after the web at the mo until a replacement is found!

 

Right, I think I am getting to the true reason behind the delay in this breaking on the OS.

 

1, There was a lunch

 

2, Big Gordie is now interim webmonkey

 

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3, The Dunfermline webmonkey can't afford lunch

 

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4, The Darlington OS got updated before ours did.

 

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all i'm saying now is i think,along with others,that we've probably seen the last of fleming.

homesick.

i question his fight and desire to improve , desire to knuckle down and prove DP wrong.

he would have been coached better by a specialist goalie coach at BP,and hopefully his flaws would have been looked at and worked upon.

he had a chance to say "no-i want to fight for my place",but he's gone home instead,stagnating in a 4th rate league,instead of trying to impress in an equal level of football (IMO) in the reserves..with the possibility of being number one(as of yet its not set in stone..is it?) and challenging if not.

"first team experience"..ok ,but at what standard?

will it improve him?

good luck to the lad..he needs it.

 

 

Thank f*ck im only coming on this forum once, you do talk some pish.

First of all how do you know he would be coached better? Dunfermline have a specialist goalkeeper coach and have had for some time our so called sub standard coaching was key to McGregor staying at Rangers and becoming an international goalkeeper, who was the last keeper to play international football after leaving your club?

Your cheap shots at our so called 4th rate league are amusing, I watched you league last season, it's awful. The standard in the 1st division is easily equal to mid table in your league.

Considering our record or improving loan players yes he will be improved, strikers like Leigh Griffiths are far better than what he he will have experienced in your league.

 

You need to lose the big team mentality.

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Thank f*ck im only coming on this forum once, you do talk some pish.

First of all how do you know he would be coached better? Dunfermline have a specialist goalkeeper coach and have had for some time our so called sub standard coaching was key to McGregor staying at Rangers and becoming an international goalkeeper, who was the last keeper to play international football after leaving your club?

Your cheap shots at our so called 4th rate league are amusing, I watched you league last season, it's awful. The standard in the 1st division is easily equal to mid table in your league.

Considering our record or improving loan players yes he will be improved, strikers like Leigh Griffiths are far better than what he he will have experienced in your league.

 

You need to lose the big team mentality.

 

never had it.

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Thank f*ck im only coming on this forum once, you do talk some pish.

First of all how do you know he would be coached better? Dunfermline have a specialist goalkeeper coach and have had for some time our so called sub standard coaching was key to McGregor staying at Rangers and becoming an international goalkeeper, who was the last keeper to play international football after leaving your club?

Your cheap shots at our so called 4th rate league are amusing, I watched you league last season, it's awful. The standard in the 1st division is easily equal to mid table in your league.

Considering our record or improving loan players yes he will be improved, strikers like Leigh Griffiths are far better than what he he will have experienced in your league.

 

You need to lose the big team mentality.

 

Not sure about that, saw a couple of airdrie united games last season (admittedly they did eventually go down, but did play some higher placed opponents) and the standard was generally poor from both sides in the games. Saw a couple of league 2 games last season also and the standard in them seems generally better than that of the scots first divison. Admittedly we've only seen a few games of each others leagues and i suppose it is no quantifiable way to prove one another wrong or right. The people from scotland i know openly admit the scots 1st division is at least the standard of our league two.

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Not sure about that, saw a couple of airdrie united games last season (admittedly they did eventually go down, but did play some higher placed opponents) and the standard was generally poor from both sides in the games. Saw a couple of league 2 games last season also and the standard in them seems generally better than that of the scots first divison. Admittedly we've only seen a few games of each others leagues and i suppose it is no quantifiable way to prove one another wrong or right. The people from scotland i know openly admit the scots 1st division is at least the standard of our league two.

 

 

That's a very polite way of saying 'is it bollocks'.

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Thank f*ck im only coming on this forum once, you do talk some pish.

First of all how do you know he would be coached better? Dunfermline have a specialist goalkeeper coach and have had for some time our so called sub standard coaching was key to McGregor staying at Rangers and becoming an international goalkeeper, who was the last keeper to play international football after leaving your club?

Your cheap shots at our so called 4th rate league are amusing, I watched you league last season, it's awful. The standard in the 1st division is easily equal to mid table in your league.

Considering our record or improving loan players yes he will be improved, strikers like Leigh Griffiths are far better than what he he will have experienced in your league.

 

You need to lose the big team mentality.

Andy Goram? And if you think Ollerenshaw's too young, Goram was 18 when he arrived and didn't do too badly. Young gems ARE found. Casillas was 19 when he first made a name for himself. Shilton was still a kid when he broke into Leicester's first team. Clemence was in Liverpool's first team by the time he was 20 and had played a fair few at Scunthorpe for a couple of years before that.

 

Let Flem get some experience, Olly will get more games with the ressies and more join ups with the first team.

 

DP's no mug. Trust him.

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He can be recalled from January onwards....

 

Not bothered by this move in the slightest. He caused so many goals last season. Never knew when to leave his line and come for the ball. Caused 3 penalties from what I can remember due to mix ups with the defence, Walsall away he come rushing off his line and they scored, Yeovil away him and Rubes fuc*ed up and caused a goal, sent off against Leicester away. In no mans land at home against Colchester when Platt scored. I am sure there are more if I think. He was a good shot stopper and not bad at saving penatlies but all GK's should be good shot stoppers anyway.

Spot on! Well said that man...I don't understand why ppl see Fleming as such a sooper dooper keeper...Actually I do...coz a lot of those talking him up didn't like Crossley.

 

Anyway, the only thing NIKI hasn't covered is his lack of communication which led to the Yeovil and Peterborough cock ups...and his rushing out needlessly for both them goals.

 

Fleming WILL be a very good a player one day...as it is, he's a young average player with not many games under his belt and with a great chance to develop into a real talent. And I'm chuffed with the move. Other than, I hope their belief in Ollerenshaw to step in for a game or two when needed, is warranted.

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I rate Fleming, I think he has a lot of potential but he does need to eliminate the "rash" decision making from his game. Personally I think he has taken the easy option going back north of the border to Dunfermline instead of staying at BP to fight for his shirt.

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I rate Fleming, I think he has a lot of potential but he does need to eliminate the "rash" decision making from his game. Personally I think he has taken the easy option going back north of the border to Dunfermline instead of staying at BP to fight for his shirt.

 

I can see his point myself. New manager doesn't rate him. It is going to be a hell of a struggle to change that stance when he's never seen him play and has already made up his mind. Get out, play first team football, try and get noticed. I mean it (being noticed by a bigger team) is why players sign for us anyway generally. They don't come here thinking Oldham Athletic is the top of their careers.

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Do you get to Old Trafford much ?

I don't support any English team, I see no point in supporting a team you will never see or never feel any passion for really, I saw no option indicating that I supported no club and sinse Sir Alex Fergusson is rather well thought of in Dunfermline(played here and had a rather good record) and sinse I have seen Manchester in the flesh...

 

Not sure about that, saw a couple of airdrie united games last season

Poor you

Airdrie are a poor first division team, hence why they got relegated, IMO I'd say Dunfermline at this moment in time is a bottom 6 Spl team, but sinse there is only 1 promotion spot it's an exceptionally hard league to get out off.

The way I see it is that Greg is guaranteed(more or less) 1st team football here with a club with a good set up, Down in Oldham he would've been in and out the team, he will progress more in this season with us than what he would've down south, we get a good keeper and develop him(hopefully aiding us in promotion) and in return you get a better keeper back, everyone is a winner.

Greg was also a local lad who supported Dunfermline so it must have been a choice which really appealed to him, nothing more to it really.

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incidently,i used to watch the pars regularly..95-97(lived in edinburgh) ....first started going when andy rhodes signed for them.

the set up there was on a similar scale to oldham,but IMO smaller (nothing personal!!!)

enjoyed the crack there...remember when they got promoted to premier league and the crowd was waiting for 45 mins for the helicopter to arrive with the championship trophy...folk piling out saying "what a load of :censored:e..cannae organize a pish up in a bar!"

went to hampden for the skol cup final v hibs ...don't remember much :lol:

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thought you wern't coming back? :)

You missed me really :wink:

 

went to hampden for the skol cup final v hibs ...don't remember much :lol:

I don't think many pars fans want to either :lol:

 

He did mention he supported Dunfermline as a lad at the players meal, may well be one of the reasons he jumped at the chance.

Indeed, was a season ticket holder during the calderwood era and was at the Semi final v Falkirk last year, good interview on the Dunfermline official website with him.

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There's been a few mentions about his rash decision making, but not so many pointing out that there were at least two crap ref decisions that lead to the penalties. Fair play to the lad for having the balls to stand by his style, it might pay benefits, and who knows, could have been useful with CBs who were slow on the turn? I have no idea if he is good enough, but all the best to him.

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I'm not worried in the slightest that Fleming has gone. Would we rather him sitting on the bench all season? I agree with Niki and Stitch on their assessments.

 

I think Fleming is a decent keeper, one for the future if he can cut out his rushes of blood, far too many times his judgement was shocking and conceeded far too many penalties from them. Penney was at the Walsall game for his error in the first minute and I'm sure Royle may have highlighted this to him.

 

I'd rather see him out on loan somewhere getting games and experience and coming back more ready for the job here. Having him in the reserves would be a waste.

 

We could have seen his last game at the club but I don't think the door is completely shut on him. I hope he has a great season up there and he comes back to us much improved or by getting us a good fee should he want to move on.

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