opinions4u Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I'm sorry, but we should wear them anyway. If FIFA take any negative action in response we should tell them to :censored: off and set up our own international football federation. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15606557.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmad09 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) I'm sorry, but we should wear them anyway. If FIFA take any negative action in response we should tell them to :censored: off and set up our own international football federation. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15606557.stm It's completely ridiculous. How is it political/religious? It's remembering people who fought to protect Europe not just Britain. Edited November 5, 2011 by oafcmad09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I'm sorry, but we should wear them anyway. If FIFA take any negative action in response we should tell them to :censored: off and set up our own international football federation. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15606557.stm "Fifa in acting like complete assholes shocker!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Dog Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) I'll buy a poppy this year like I always do. But I understand and agree with FIFA's stance. If they allow a Poppy then where will it stop? USA adding a symbol for 9/11, Pakistan adding a symbol for the Pakistan-Indian War, and so on...it could, and most probably would, get very silly. Edited November 6, 2011 by Yard Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 So why allow the black ribbons to be worn on the England shirts when Diana died? FIFA an organisation based in Switzerland, a country that has forever been more interested in counting its money than fighting for freedom…tell them to :censored: off and donate the percentage that gets paid to FIFA/UEFA when any International match is played to the Royal British Legion or better still pay someone to stab that :censored: Blatter in the head…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 I'll buy a poppy this year like I always do. But I understand and agree with FIFA's stance. If they allow a Poppy then where will it stop? USA adding a symbol for 9/11, Pakistan adding a symbol for the Pakistan-Indian War, and so on...it could, and most probably would, get very silly. The poppy is an internationally recognised symbol of rememberance. It was first used in the USA. Most commonwealth countries, including India and Pakistan also use the poppy in a similar way. This is a long established symbol. I really do think the FA should have the balls to defy FIFA on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Surely this is one time when the European Convention of Human Rights might actually come in handy for a change????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 How so? What human right is being infringed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Can we not change the official England badge to a poppy for the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 How so? What human right is being infringed? I would have said article 10, right for freedom of expression? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I would have said article 10, right for freedom of expression? In that case can we bin Vauxhall as our sponsor for the night and have 'Blatter is a :censored:' on our fishal coach in arriving at Wembley, on the warm up tops, and the advert links during the tv coverage……."England Internationals, in conjunction with 'Blatter is a :censored:…' now that's freedom of speech... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 In that case can we bin Vauxhall as our sponsor for the night and have 'Blatter is a :censored:' on our fishal coach in arriving at Wembley, on the warm up tops, and the advert links during the tv coverage……."England Internationals, in conjunction with 'Blatter is a :censored:…' now that's freedom of speech... Now that I would pay to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Rules are rules...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 This thread is full of a :censored:ton of retardation. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 This thread is full of a :censored:ton of retardation. Just saying. I can hear the Daily Mail press OUTRAGE-O-TRON cyborgs whirring into life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I would ask what’s the point of wearing it for an International match? Yes commonwealth countries recognise it (I wonder why?), as do a few other countries that traditionally are allied with the commonwealth, but more importantly, Spain don’t. Given that England and Spain were on opposing sides in World War 2, I don’t really see wearing it as being a particularly unifying symbol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Having done some brief research; FIFA's Regulations regarding Players' Equipment are that they should not carry any political, religious or commercial messages. FIFA has 208 Member Associations and the same regulations are applied globally, and uniformally, in the event of similar requests by other nations to commemorate historical events. FIFA fully acknowledges the significance of the Poppy Appeal and the ways in which it helps commemorate Remembrance Day on 11 November each year. FIFA understands the wish of The FA to respect and commemorate the lives of members of their armed forces, and following further correspondence has approved The FA's request for a minute's silence to be observed prior to kick-off, when England host the reigning European and World champions Spain at Wembley Stadium on Saturday 12 November. England will get to wear their poppy's on the warm-up kit - this will be auctioned off for charity, and the event will observe a minutes silence prior to kick off. jimsleftfoot makes a good point about not creating "international unease" with our opposition on the night being Spanish; and we all know Franco was a bit of a :censored:. So let's face it, not much really to get upset about is there. All in accordance to FIFA's rules. Everybody wins. Apart from the Daily Mail readers. EXCLUSIVE: Poppy ban on England kit enforced 'in case we upset Germans' By LAURA WILLIAMSON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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