oafc joe Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just wondering how many wouldnt mind if he went. I'm not for one moment saying I want him to go, I just think it would be interesting to see how ,any would or wouldn't mind if he was sacked or went to another club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc joe Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Also im saying he's in danger of getting sacked:L just a general thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Stay. Don't forget we have got Reuben Reid to come back. Imagine how fat he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 He has to stay, we need consistency, the teams that achieve success do so on solid foundations. The ones that chop and change managers don't get lasting success. He is still learning as a manager, we will probably get more tonkings along the way but as long as he and the players learn from them a good tonking isn't always a bad thing. We as a town and fanbase need to back the club, a football club is an ephemeral entity, a triumvirate between the fans, the team and the board where all 3 need to pull beyond their weight. For all their faults the board are the ones that have been doing the heavy lifting over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Honestly? I'd be disappointed to see him go, he has all the committment etc you want, and it is refreshing to see such enthusiasm. He is practically out there with them on the pitch every game. However, yes we have a small budget but he has brought together a good team, with some of DP's players, and some of his own signings, however the squad we have we should be much higher up the table. If he was to go, I would be disappointed, as he has the passion and has the ability to bring together a good squad, and is a good motivator no doubt about it, but he let's himself massively down with tactics, so whilst i would be disappointed if he was to go, it wouldn't be the end of things as some on here think, and is replaceable. But hopefully he stays with us and learns from his mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 It would be a bit of a disaster if he went. It's not the manager that's the issue, it the fact we haven't got a pot to piss in that's the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDHAM4ALWAYS Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 He must stay for stability and because I think he will produce a decent team if given the time, even without a bulging wallet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 But dickov still has his failings. I understand he is Still a rookie. Or is still afforded this title because he is so liked? Do we use the pot to piss in line as a cover for his failings? Just asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Me! I really hope he goes soon, its awful attempting to play football on the deck! I really hope he gets sacked soon and then we can bring someone like Ronnie Moore or Dave Penney back. I loved Dave Penney's football, there was only usually 1 or 2 goals in it! I know it was usually against us and we lost 1 or 2 nil but I thought we were a tight unit because we never got out of our half......... so at least we played together........ in the same half! I also felt that under Ronnie Moore it helped my neckache! Brian Talbot and Mick Wadsworth were great aswell! I just hope we sack Dickov because he has no passion, commitment or affinity with the fans! He also showed no commitment or will to win as a player! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 He's doing a good job on a minimal budget. He has his faults but given the fragility of his contract, if he didn't and he was a brilliant manager then he'd have been taken off our hands already. He's got a decent side together and yes, he is still learning. It will be interesting so see how we finish the season, we had a very poor post-Xmas as with last season and if we can pick up a few more points this time around then I think it will show he is learning. Stick with him and we should hopefully see steady progression. Those who don't want him need to think who we could get on our budget. It ain't going to be anyone with any experience who's any good - it would effectively be another Dave Penney on his way down the pecking order. So we'd have to go for another novice who could be a Grayson/Martinez/Di Canio but could also be a Merson/Adams/Ince. The novice we've got is just fine thanks and long may he continue in his job. I also think that it is a small minority who don't want him around, but they post the same old nonsense with enough frequency to give the illusion that anti-PD sentiment is more widespread than it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 He's doing a good job on a minimal budget. He has his faults but given the fragility of his contract, if he didn't and he was a brilliant manager then he'd have been taken off our hands already. He's got a decent side together and yes, he is still learning. It will be interesting so see how we finish the season, we had a very poor post-Xmas as with last season and if we can pick up a few more points this time around then I think it will show he is learning. Stick with him and we should hopefully see steady progression. Those who don't want him need to think who we could get on our budget. It ain't going to be anyone with any experience who's any good - it would effectively be another Dave Penney on his way down the pecking order. So we'd have to go for another novice who could be a Grayson/Martinez/Di Canio but could also be a Merson/Adams/Ince. The novice we've got is just fine thanks and long may he continue in his job. I also think that it is a small minority who don't want him around, but they post the same old nonsense with enough frequency to give the illusion that anti-PD sentiment is more widespread than it is. This is actually one of the most sensible things I have seen anyone post for a matter of weeks about the manager topic! You have got it absolutely spot on aswell. Decent job on a :censored: budget! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesstlad Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 What happened when uncle Joe left for Everton does that answer your question not that P.D. is as good but he certainly has the potential to become a very good manager given time and a bit of luck thats if we can keep him long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyOAFC Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 It'd be such a pointless sacking. His replacement would either be an established but mediocre hoof merchant a la Penney, or another inexperienced manager wanting his first crack at management. The best thing we can do at the moment is stick with Dickov, and give him time to build a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Break The Silence Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Also im saying he's in danger of getting sacked:L just a general thought Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, that's the funniest thing i've heard for years! You've got to be f**king :censored:ting me? Please tell me you are and i've missed your attempt at a wise crack? Please? Pretty please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, that's the funniest thing i've heard for years! You've got to be f**king :censored:ting me? Please tell me you are and i've missed your attempt at a wise crack? Please? Pretty please? I suspect he's missed the word 'not'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc joe Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 I suspect he's missed the word 'not'. I'm missed the word 'not' thanks:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_balls Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 If we ever came into money (ala Chris M@#re - but not in the same way he turned out) then the first thing i'd do is give PD, GT and his staff a 3 year deal, along with our key players and then see what that stability brought us with a few quality additions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 It's very simple. There is no better manager available to do the job who would want to do the job. Dickov has his failings. But "in danger of getting sacked"? I wouldn't get rid if we go relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Penney out p.s you cant sack someone who's contract has run out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I'd like to say I'm astonished that the question is even raised but sadly I'm not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Got to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Penney out p.s you cant sack someone who's contract has run out Actually that's not true- non renewal of a fixed-term contract can be classed as a dismissal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Unless we can get someone better in at the same price or cheaper - then no chance I want him to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 How do we measure success and what are our realistic expectations each season based on a very limited budget, poor facilities and sub 3000 attendances?! Two decent cup runs, mid-table position/possibly touching distance of play-offs is a decent achievement based on what Paul's had to work with. Yes, tactics can be questioned on occasion but overall the product on the pitch is light years ahead of what has been served prior to Dickov's appointment. I would look to measure him against Shez because I still think Shez could have achieved something here given an extra season or two because we were making progress with him too and the events following tha night at the dogs was a serious knee-jerk reaction by all concerned. We imploded and had we kept Hughes then who knows?! Avoiding relegation i.e. team being in bottom four for most of season, I would give Dickov another two seasons (one at very least) to consolidate a decent heart within our team without all the chopping and changing. Let's then review his achievements at that stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 The bottom line is at some point in the future Paul Dickov will part company with Oldham Athletic, either through his choice or the clubs choice. I do not think Dickov is immune to criticism as some apparently do, but thats because I don't think any manager should be immune to criticism, and I can't comment much on the teams performances under him as the honest truth is I have only seen the team under him play twice last season (first two home games) and once this season (wycombe at home), in addition to the chesterfield game on sky. I do think the fact that he is liked has definitely worked in his favour. If this was Penney or Moore enduring this run of results I think alot of fans would definitely be chomping at the bit for him to be sacked. And it also seems he is well liked by the Chairman, Players, and played a big role in the likes of Kuqi and MVoto signing for the club when they could have easily gone elsewhere for alot more money. And you also have to consider that if he did go, who would replace him? a club in decline with falling gates, skint (hence no chance of paying anyone compensation), likely to face a further reduced budget??? Unemployed managers and journeymen would no doubt be buzzing round the club like flies round :censored:, but I think the club would struggle big time to bring in anyone better, which is why I think if he was to leave in the immediate future, it would hit the club hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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