steveoafc Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I know! He started it. My policy is to intervene, grammar-wise, only to uphold the first law. After that I'm out of it. Oh, that grammar?.......I thought you meant like grammar and grandad......I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Break The Silence Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Yes it would have but not as much as a competent bit of intelligence, decent policing and a contingency plan. Plus the ability for someone to actually make the decision, to move home fans, delay kick off and let every one in. Beat me to it. What a load of bollocks that official statement is. If our team bus had broken down, or if there had been a big pile up near the ground, kick off would have been delayed no problem what-so-ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Why did nobody set a chippy on fire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brierleys555 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 more important how rubbish are sheff u for only taking 900 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryowen Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 Rudematic I do not agree with your comments about ALL ticket problems. You are far better knowing beforehand what tickets are sold and you can plan accordinlgy. Those that would turn up without a ticket in these circumstances would be very few. You are likely to have a more volatile crowd when supporters are so upset when some had bought tickets etc.as with last Saturday. Fans turning up without tickets do not deserve any consideration if they do so knowing it is an all ticket game and can be policed accordingly. You say that our club could be blamed to a lesser extent. What do you mean and in what respect.? Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Aren't games usually made all-ticket because either there is a good chance of demand meeting supply, so you give priority to certain types, or of a serious chance of trouble? Neither applies here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Rudematic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Break The Silence Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Agreed Barry. This game should always have been all ticket. The cock up that ensued was always going to happen with so much at stake and the short distance between the 2 clubs. Forgive my ignorance Barry but who makes that decision ultimately? Bury FC? GMP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Rudematic I do not agree with your comments about ALL ticket problems. You are far better knowing beforehand what tickets are sold and you can plan accordinlgy. Those that would turn up without a ticket in these circumstances would be very few. You are likely to have a more volatile crowd when supporters are so upset when some had bought tickets etc.as with last Saturday. Fans turning up without tickets do not deserve any consideration if they do so knowing it is an all ticket game and can be policed accordingly. You say that our club could be blamed to a lesser extent. What do you mean and in what respect.? Barry Well why did Bury think that stand would be enough? Who provided the "intelligence" that said we wouldn't bring more than 2000? If the club had no input into that then what is the point? On Friday, on the club's website it said we had sold 1000+ tickets and often in the past have taken the same number of fans again looking to pay on the day. From the statements made by Bury and the GMP they were unaware of this. Did the club tell them? As for all ticket, that theory only works if it's all ticket for home fans as well. Bury were not going to make it all ticket for home fans. That means people who were unable to get a ticket for our end for whatever reason would have tried to gain entry into the home ends. It is a very local game, it only costs £4.00 on the bus to get there for the majority. For some it is even closer and easier to get to than BP is. We had a good couple of hundred fans unable to get in the ground, if it had been a sell-out Bury might not have gotten much more notice. As it was they should have had over 20 hours notice to realise that stand wasn't necessarily going to be big enough. They did nothing, the situation could have been resolved in 30 minutes, it certainly was in 2002. So if they didn't do anything with over 20 hours notice why should I believe they would have done anything with longer notice. The trouble was mainly involving those fans who were in the home ends, all-ticket for our fans wouldn't have stopped that. As we saw at Stockport a few years ago. If I hadnt been able to get a ticket if it had been all-ticket I'd have backed myself to be able to enter the home end, especially with their well-publicised financial problems. I wouldn't have been the only one either. Incidentally what were you doing whilst a few hundred fans were locked out, some of whom had tickets? That is exactly the sort of situation I'd have expected the fan's representative on the board to get involved in, or the supporter's liaison, where were you? I freely admit you couldn't make the decision, but you could have helped diffuse the situation if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 It really didn't need to be all ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Break The Silence Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 It really didn't need to be all ticket. No. It went swimmingly just as it was . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I do think that Latics have a teeny tiny culpability in this. When I purchased my ticket on wednesday, I asked how many we had sold and was told about 500. So at this point it was perfectly clear that the allocation of 2100 would not be enough. If 500 people had tickets when there was no requirement to, then common sense told me that 2100 would not be enough. There was a grey haired chap in the ticket office (think he was a youth coach) and he said 'there will be easily 2000 there' to which I replied 'and the rest'. Anyway, Latics probably should have made sure that bury had set aside the small away section in the main stand, especially when they were telling everyone to rock up even though they had sold over half the stand, when there was absolutely no need to buy in advance. Also, upon hearing that we had sold 600 (I added on 100 to make it sound even better) my brother decided to get off work because he wanted to be a part of it, he was giddyer than me expecting over 3000. Burys director is trying to cover his arse with his 'around 900' comment, he was fully aware it was over half with no requirement to buy. He is trying to play it down by turning over a thousand into merely hundreds. I would allocate blame at 1% Latics, 95% bury and 4% GMP (for not telling bury 'look, this is what were going to do, were shifting your fans along...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Also, all that will come of this is more all ticket designations in the future. This will harm our followings at said games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) Bury Times' view www.burytimes.co.uk/sport/10361833.COMMENT__Stricken_Bury_can_ill_afford_to_lock_out_their_paying_customers?ref=rss EDIT can someone make that link clickable, I've forgot how to do it if isnt automatic, cheers. Edited April 17, 2013 by rudemedic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 http://www.burytimes.co.uk/sport/10361833.COMMENT__Stricken_Bury_can_ill_afford_to_lock_out_their_paying_customers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 They gave us two stands last time. This was a bigger game so they should have give us the same two stands again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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