ChaddySmoker Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) In reply to yarddog73; No-one is trying to say (especially me) that Jones should not be picked-he was the real Player of the Year don't forget! Edited October 15, 2015 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 But Philli doing a job anywhere on the park isn't working, that's the point Philli hasn't actually done anything wrong though. Many have latched on to Croft & Philli as reasons we are not winning and that's wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStationLatic Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I think the only way to fit Winchester in, like Baxter and like Philli, is to play a 4-3-1-2 with said type of player bring the one behind the two. With two up top, enough space is left in 'the hole'. I do think Phili would be okay as one of the two strikers as well, though, if he has someone in the hole intelligent enough to provide good through balls to him and Poleon or Forte, for example. Philliskirk hasn't got pace but he can read the game really well - hence he gets into positions to be able to get plenty of shots away and anticipated the flick-on to score v Fleetwood etc He's no world beater but I'm embarrassed at the stick he's getting when so many of his team mates are flattering to deceive and performing more poorly than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsfan05 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 just a poor mans Green pal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) As if people are actually trying to make an argument for Philly over Winchester. The same lot who wanted to drop Daniel Johnson for not running around enough. I'd rather have a player who's in and out of games who can create a moment of brilliance then somebody who runs around and creates very little. On the strength argument how many times do we see philliskirk bundled off the ball? Quite a lot is the answer Edited October 16, 2015 by SavageTheBeast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 As if people are actually trying to make an argument for Philly over Winchester. The same lot who wanted to drop Daniel Johnson for not running around enough. I'd rather have a player who's in and out of games who can create a moment of brilliance then somebody who runs around and creates very little. On the strength argument how many times do we see philliskirk bundled off the ball? Quite a lot is the answer Normally trying his trademark 'turn with back to goal and fall over' move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I don't think that Palmer1 or even IceStationLatic and most certainly not I, wanted Daniel Johnson dropping because he didn't run around enough! Stick to the facts Savage or just don't post such inaccuracies. There are some on here who get easily confused with claims such as these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I don't think that Palmer1 or even IceStationLatic and most certainly not I, wanted Daniel Johnson dropping because he didn't run around enough! Stick to the facts Savage or just don't post such inaccuracies. There are some on here who get easily confused with claims such as these Some did claim Philly was a better No 10 than Johnson which I think goes someway to proving my point that we have got used to watching some :censored: in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Some did claim Philly was a better No 10 than Johnson which I think goes someway to proving my point that we have got used to watching some :censored: in recent years. I'm not sure this is true. I think the view was that Johnson unbalanced the team, and whilst he was individually fantastic, we went through a pretty poor spell with him in the team (I think, can't be arsed checking). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I'm not sure this is true. I think the view was that Johnson unbalanced the team, and whilst he was individually fantastic, we went through a pretty poor spell with him in the team (I think, can't be arsed checking). He did have poor games (MK) being up there with the worst but the quality he had was outstanding, those type of players tend to drift in and out of games but are well worth the entrance fee alone when on song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 He did have poor games (MK) being up there with the worst but the quality he had was outstanding, those type of players tend to drift in and out of games but are well worth the entrance fee alone when on song. Get with the programme - we want a team of trustworthy 110%-ers running around being consistently :censored: week in, week out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I'm not sure this is true. I think the view was that Johnson unbalanced the team, and whilst he was individually fantastic, we went through a pretty poor spell with him in the team (I think, can't be arsed checking). It's difficult to say that, we were very good at Sheffield United and Rochdale with him in the side. His last four games were in that crazy December and it's hard to pin that on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Get with the programme - we want a team of trustworthy 110%-ers running around being consistently :censored: week in, week out.... Harry, it is physically impossible for any player to give 110% whether they are trustworthy or not. Or :censored: or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Harry, it is physically impossible for any player to give 110% whether they are trustworthy or not. Or :censored: or not! An 110% improvenent on their last performances would help. Edited October 16, 2015 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Thread closed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_blue Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Thread closed? Nah Chaddysmoker won't be happy he's not scored! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Thread closed? No doubt about it, cant be left out again, kept going for 90 mins too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 No doubt about it, cant be left out again, kept going for 90 mins too. He was very good today. Best first touch of anyone at the club but was :censored:ed 80 mins onwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 He was very good today. Best first touch of anyone at the club but was :censored:ed 80 mins onwardsIt would have been a shock if he wasn't playing in midfield with 10 men after hardly appearing for months. I do think he's had some fitness issues but I'd not hold today against him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc21 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 He's never been my number 1 choice but the lad had a top game today, fair play to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyres_28 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Absolutely superb in the first half. His first touch was sublime at times. It is great to see him playing without the extra defensive responsiblity as his first thought was to look forward, which is refreshing to see after Doncaster. Got into some great positions in 'the hole' and his cross for Poleon (who looked shocked to see it fall to him) was brilliant. Quieter in the second half but nice to see Dunny put faith in him and has to start in the same role next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Was he ever that bad that we had to leave him out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyres_28 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 He was average against Walsall (who could well get promotion) and Boro (who will win the Championship) but wasn't poor IMO. Something seemed to go wrong behind the scenes for the lad. Didn't have the chance to take his opportunity at Donny due to negative tactics but that role today is made for the lad. One negative for me is that he did have the chance to run at his man 1on1 a few times and looked to pass; I would like to see him back his running ability a little more. Excellent late runs into the box though and his shot won the corner for the goal. Well done lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsy Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Thought he was excellent today run himself into the ground 2nd half but quite agree with previous post 80mins and he was knackered but should be a starter next match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddot_m Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 He was average against Walsall (who could well get promotion) and Boro (who will win the Championship) but wasn't poor IMO. Something seemed to go wrong behind the scenes for the lad. Didn't have the chance to take his opportunity at Donny due to negative tactics but that role today is made for the lad. One negative for me is that he did have the chance to run at his man 1on1 a few times and looked to pass; I would like to see him back his running ability a little more. Excellent late runs into the box though and his shot won the corner for the goal. Well done lad. I think the plan was to curb the "mazy" runs, pass the ball quicker and lose the defensive duties. It worked, well played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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