Break The Silence Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 In that section I ticked 'other' and then suggested we spend the money on a goalkeeper that could catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I like to think I've already crowdfunded in the amount of £350. I mean seriously? This isn't about shares in the club - it's a suggestion of coughing up more money to pay for stuff that the club should be paying for. Stadium improvement, youth academy, scoreboard etc?! All this money that was supposed to be flooding into the club through the new stand and the Sports Direct deal. We are an utter shambles off the field (and on it but that is done to death elsewhere). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I like the idea. I said the other day we are purely a microcosm of Premier League corporatism. This would change that, even if only to a small degree. If it is for banners, statues, scoreboards or any other decor for the new stand, then it's a good scheme. However if it was for the playing side then fans will need an owner and a manager they can trust with their investments. With only 3500 fans I don't know how far it can get, but maybe it would reconnect those who feel detached and are considering quitting the club after this horrific season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics and England Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Playershare is effectively crowdfunding. Whilst I am supportive ofthe Board exploring options, I would be a little concerned that if they opted to go ahead with this as an initiative because the fans only have a set amount of disposable income that they are prepared to plough into Latics. I can't see that there are many fans who would believe that a new scoreboard or another of the suggestions was more worthy of funding than an improvement to the squad. Why, therefore, would we not just put the energy into promoting Playershare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Statue of legend - waste of money Big screen in ground - waste of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Playershare is a dead duck if they keep giving it to lads like Fuller. I'd rather see them fold that and put all the focus on something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 For me, crowdfunding should be an almost entirely different and new income stream, it will be ineffective if it is from the same pool of supporters who would have contributed anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 A big screen in the ground would be brilliant and would provide another source of income for the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluear Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I'd there an option for the money to be used towards Dunn's payoff? I'd donate to that. On a more serious note, there would have to be a bloody decent reason for me to donate. I put 350 in to the club and all I got was a poxy season ticket lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Playershare is a dead duck if they keep giving it to lads like Fuller. I'd rather see them fold that and put all the focus on something like this. Different fans will have differing opinions of how they would like to see the money spent, but personally I think they were on the right lines with Joksts, even if that was calamitous. A non-league punt - apparently the Latvian struggled to acclimatise to living away - not some old man who we're going to get 6 games from. Elokobi wasn't too bad, but I think there's more reward in somebody who will have increased their value while at the club, and you can then follow for the rest of their career. It would've been great if Matt Smith was Playershare. Somebody who has now made a career for himself, after we picked him from nowhere. Also, a lad who has been part-time will appreciate the opportunity Playershare has granted him, over a Fuller type. You could genuinely see when Matt Smith left just how thankful he was of the club for providing him that chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Different fans will have differing opinions of how they would like to see the money spent, but personally I think they were on the right lines with Joksts, even if that was calamitous. A non-league punt - apparently the Latvian struggled to acclimatise to living away - not some old man who we're going to get 6 games from. Elokobi wasn't too bad, but I think there's more reward in somebody who will have increased their value while at the club, and you can then follow for the rest of their career. It would've been great if Matt Smith was Playershare. Somebody who has now made a career for himself, after we picked him from nowhere. Also, a lad who has been part-time will appreciate the opportunity Playershare has granted him, over a Fuller type. You could genuinely see when Matt Smith left just how thankful he was of the club for providing him that chance. Playershare signed Evina who is now steady at Doncaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Don't you all already "crowdfund" all of these things through your season tickets and match tickets and buying programmes, food, drink and merchandise? I'm happy for the club to be creative in generating investment. But this smacks of "pay us more for things you already pay us for". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The whole idea is just a virtual begging bucket... Crowdfunding works when you have something which appeals outside of the normal demographic of supporter or if you have something unique a lot of people would like to see happen. A football club saying we want a Scoreboard IS NOT "crowdfunding"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1000 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I've filled it in but said I wouldn't contribute anything as I don't believe our inept board would use the funds correctly or even what they were raised for in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Playershare is a dead duck if they keep giving it to lads like Fuller. I'd rather see them fold that and put all the focus on something like this. Playershare is damned whatever they do. Some fans will only want to see it used on developing promising youngsters who wouldn't otherwise get a chance. Some will only want to see it used on proven quality players likely to make the first team straight away. Some would prefer to see it used to fund more development of the club's own youth players. And some don't care either way. You can't let the fans vote on who gets signed without the results alienating half of your subscribers (and potentially the manager, who doesn't want "the wisdom of the crowd" choosing or vetoing his targets) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The whole idea is just a virtual begging bucket... Crowdfunding works when you have something which appeals outside of the normal demographic of supporter or if you have something unique a lot of people would like to see happen. A football club saying we want a Scoreboard IS NOT "crowdfunding"... I could argue that it is, as long as the people who donate receive something in return. I've crowdfunded a number a of projects, most have been successful, some not so. I've always received something in return. The bricks were effective, and well worked, crowd funding. People handing over their hard earned to the club for a "brick". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Would a seat sale work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Playershare is damned whatever they do. Some fans will only want to see it used on developing promising youngsters who wouldn't otherwise get a chance. Some will only want to see it used on proven quality players likely to make the first team straight away. Some would prefer to see it used to fund more development of the club's own youth players. And some don't care either way. You can't let the fans vote on who gets signed without the results alienating half of your subscribers (and potentially the manager, who doesn't want "the wisdom of the crowd" choosing or vetoing his targets) Yeah, to be honest I've just gone right off the premise of it as a whole. At the risk of sounding like a loony, something like this could be the start of us reclaiming a bit of our club back, if used in the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Perhaps playershare should limit itself to the following each year: 1 professional contract to a youth graduate. 1 star signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbaltipie Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I wasn't overly impressed with my brick investment to be honest. Arriving at the ground to find it was covered in efflorescence, although I'm sure overtime this will disappear. After spending five minutes looking for the brick after the game I found it to be hidden behind the door which was latched open to let the fans out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I wasn't overly impressed with my brick investment to be honest. Arriving at the ground to find it was covered in efflorescence, although I'm sure overtime this will disappear. After spending five minutes looking for the brick after the game I found it to be hidden behind the door which was latched open to let the fans out. Still got people to give them money for them. It's a bit like kickstarter projects, promise the moon and you end up with a picture of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Villains Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 and here we go....the seeds for a "fan owned" football club are bneing sown...begining of the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I wasn't overly impressed with my brick investment to be honest. Arriving at the ground to find it was covered in efflorescence, although I'm sure overtime this will disappear. After spending five minutes looking for the brick after the game I found it to be hidden behind the door which was latched open to let the fans out. Talk us through what exactly you were hoping for from your brick? Is it your first brick or have you had other, better, bricks in the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The brick thing just gave people mortar complain about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 How much do the directors invest? Gone are the days were directors invest, its a meal ticket for some who will take far more than they will ever give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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