Snookmeister Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) I took my little girl to the 12 quid turnstile and to my surprise the bloke behind the counter asked if i was going in too! So i gave him 31 notes and in we both went. It was an absolute shambles of the highest order there today. There were hundreds of seats empty, but according to one bury steward "the capacity has to be reduced when there are so many standing". There must have been 20-30 standing in the corner just as you came in. There were literally HUNDREDS of empty seats elsewhere in that end. An absolute farce and a sham by the authorities at Bury. It even took them about 5 minutes to respond to the trouble which inevitably erupted when we scored. Completely unacceptable. So the Shakers are going down and going bust?? You reap what you sow..... Edited April 13, 2013 by Snookmeister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philliggi Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I really couldnt give a :censored: about Bury football club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunty Blue Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Looked forward to the game all week and went without to save money for train travel from Leeds and to pay on day. Ironically was at ground early to have a couple of beers in their social club and put some cash in their buckets. What ensued was shambolic with turnstiles opening and shutting at will. Then being told we could get tickets for the main stand and one steward told me they were trying to sort out some room in the far end. Ticket office opened and then inexplicably shut after selling some tickets. Back to the gate at the away end where about 15 of us left heard stewards blame police, police blame stewards and both blame the club. At 40 mins police turned up to say we had to move as Bury said we were trespassing on private property (EH??!! does it turn into that during the game and then become open to the public again at or near full time then?!) and we would have to leave or be forcibly moved. Wet through and not feeling great as I get a little anxious sometimes with having Parkinsons the only plaudit I can give is to the steward who allowed me into the main stand to use the toilet. Then back to Leeds seriously fecked off. I seriously hope OAFC doesn't do the "see Bury for a £5" with the season ticket again. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philliggi Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I seriously hope OAFC doesn't do the "see Bury for a £5" with the season ticket again. Ever. Somehow i cannot see this happening again. even if it was successful this season- which i doubt - we are the biggest team in the agreement next season (so says league position) and we don't need this kind of :censored:e. who wants to watch 4th rate footy anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 So so sorry for those locked out but really lads and lasses you missed nowt (apart from Millar's magic turn and Smithy's delightful header). I have always quite liked Bury FC and feel for the fans, however there is a part of me that is wishing them to go bump now because the irony is that their tosser of an owner cries out for investment and yet turns hundreds of people away? If I was one of those that he has asked for £100k, I would have made my decision within a few minutes of kick off because they need the cash and he would not budge (:censored:ing dickhead with zero business nowse). Shame for their fans, but I think the end is nigh!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 One of the Bury directors was interviewed after the game and he was cagey in the way he answered the question about fans being locked out and said that the police had been approached, but would not do anything. When asked why he said it was something to do with health and safety. In other words the police couldn't be arsed. I doubt there would have been enough seats in the main stand, so why not let them in the other end with a line of stewards/police between the two sets of fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 One of the Bury directors was interviewed after the game and he was cagey in the way he answered the question about fans being locked out and said that the police had been approached, but would not do anything. When asked why he said it was something to do with health and safety. In other words the police couldn't be arsed. I doubt there would have been enough seats in the main stand, so why not let them in the other end with a line of stewards/police between the two sets of fans. Common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYLEOAFC Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) I paid cash on the day but was issued with a ticket on entry. Surely Bury FC only had tickets on the turnstiles that were left from advanced sales thus allowing fans with tickets entry as when the tickets on the turnstiles are gone via cash sales on the day there are no spaces left other than pre sold tickets? I am baffled why fans with tickets didn't get in. In all honesty its a local derby if you leave the pub at 2.50pm did they expect to get in?? I am not blaming the fans but if a pint is more important than entry to the ground then its the start of potential issues. This doesn't excuse fans with tickets not getting in but does anyone know of such people in person or is it one or two then gossip, rather than large numbers of potential issues surrounding contractual obligations of a football club and their ticketing policy? Edited April 14, 2013 by KYLEOAFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) I got to the ground at 2.35 queuing up hardly last minute. I know from the moment I got there we weren't getting in. Queues like that must have formed for about an hour or so, for bury/the police not to react and put some sort of plan in place when our stand was "full" is laughable. I asked one police officer why we couldn't be put in another stand. Her answer "the whole ground is full to capacity" absolute jokers. Even more so given that bury are apparently crying out for money, Edited April 14, 2013 by Butter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYLEOAFC Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I got to the ground at 3.35 You were late then? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Haha thanks for edit! Lol. Least we won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYLEOAFC Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 3pts its all that really matters. I think we need 4 more to be safe though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I took my little girl to the 12 quid turnstile and to my surprise the bloke behind the counter asked if i was going in too! So i gave him 31 notes and in we both went. I'm sure the chap on the turnstile operator enjoyed a couple of pints on his extra £7. I doubt Bury FC will see it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sykelatic1 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I'm sure the chap on the turnstile operator enjoyed a couple of pints on his extra £7. I doubt Bury FC will see it! No mate! She is 6 and i'm 44! My point was each turnstile had different prices but this fella saw common sense and just took the money and let us both through the same one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) No mate! She is 6 and i'm 44! My point was each turnstile had different prices but this fella saw common sense and just took the money and let us both through the same one. I get you. His turnstile clicked twice. He has to hand over £24. The other £7 will go wherever he chooses! Edited April 14, 2013 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sykelatic1 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I get you. His turnstile clicked twice. He has to hand over £24. The other £7 will go wherever he chooses! He had money everywhere! All over the counter top - a gust of wind and that cash is gone! He did actually comment about tidying it up as i was passing through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcjacob Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Our traditionally above average away support and importance of the game should have indicated that this game should have been ALL TICKET FOR AWAY FANS, and even sold at BP on Saturday morning if there were any left for those. Hind sight is a wonderful tool though. Why did it need to be all ticket for away fans...did you see all the empty seats...it just needed some common sense and some proactive thought from bury and the police to keep a section empty in The main stand as a overspill....if not needed it still would help in keeping rival fans apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) He had money everywhere! All over the counter top - a gust of wind and that cash is gone! He did actually comment about tidying it up as i was passing through. If he's not handing over £12 x the number of clicks he won't last long. Edited April 14, 2013 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 If he's not handing over £12 x the number of clicks he won't last long. He might but if one of the adults who didn't get in when their kid(s) did makes a serious complaint to both Bury and the police then maybe someone will see his initiative and he will last a lot longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sykelatic1 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 He might but if one of the adults who didn't get in when their kid(s) did makes a serious complaint to both Bury and the police then maybe someone will see his initiative and he will last a lot longer. I agree - i fully expected to pay my daughter through (my mate had already gone through and was waiting for her) then go to the other turnstile and pay there- he just asked if i was coming in as well - as you said a bit of initiative and (whisper it) common sense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Parents not able to get in the stand their children had got into because of the different turnstiles ??? This is scary stuff & totally unacceptable. Any sympathy I had for Bury and their plight is gone .....they can go bust and become a supermarket or housing estate . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Parents not able to get in the stand their children had got into because of the different turnstiles ??? This is scary stuff & totally unacceptable. Any sympathy I had for Bury and their plight is gone .....they can go bust and become a supermarket or housing estate . It is completely wrong. It was also avoidable with the tiniest bit of contingent thinking - which should have been in place for this game. But I think wishing their ultimate demise is over the top. And, while unlikely, what would we do if 2,000 Yeovil fans turned up on Tuesday night? I'm not sure Latics would be any smarter than the ridiculous outcome Bury FC and GMP came up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sykelatic1 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Looking through yesterdays programme i see preston took 2706 fans in sept - if the stand holds 2100 i wonder what sort of planning went into housing that lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Depressing to see the default response of 'blame the fans', this weekend of all weekends. The Bury chairman's comments are just idiotic: "They hadn’t sold that many tickets. I think they sold 900 tickets and suddenly more than 2,000 turn up. You can’t legislate for that." You chose to not make the match all-ticket, you then spent all week begging fans of your nearest rivals to come to the game, which happened to be a relegation 6 pointer for both clubs. It really didn't occur to you that a lot of people might turn up and pay on the day? I heard from some people after the game that the police were saying that the problems were all down to fans turning up late (heard that one before, eh?) and "there was no queue at twenty to three, hundreds of fans turned up at ten to". Tell you what, why don't you accuse people of trying to storm the gate and get in without paying as well? I got there at 2.45pm (ironically I was in a panic because my train was an hour late and I was still in Liverpool at 1pm - I had a ticket and I ended up being the only one out of my mates who got in) and the queue was across the car park then. And as for the nonsense about "we're damned if we do and damned it we don't, what if we'd moved our fans and only 1000 Oldham fans turned up?" Well what if that had happened? Some Bury fans would have been pissed off at being inconvenienced. It wouldn't have been top of the list of things they were pissed off about yesterday, would it? Running the risk of moving fans unnecessarily, weighed up against the risk of what actually happened - hundreds of fans locked out, massive loss of income at a time when they're desperate for money, away fans going in the home stand (which was inevitable once they were locked out), trouble kicking off after the goal, people getting thrown down the steps.....yeah well done, good choice. And the police over-reaction after the game was ridiculous - stopping people going in pubs, telling them to stop serving (the Wetherspoons in the town centre was like a :censored:ing library and they still made them shut the bar for half an hour), loads of riot vans.....FFS it wasn't Fenerbace v Galatasaray. The only trouble was in the home stand after the goal, I didn't see any trouble outside the ground, the response was just unnecessary. It's a shame that what should have been a brilliant day was ruined, but it just feels like the attitudes haven't changed from the 80s. Mismanagement, hope for the best, then when it goes badly wrong blame the fans and treat them like thugs. I'm sorry but I'm not buying the "well if you'd had tickets....well if you'd turned up earlier...." arguments, and it just sounds horribly familiar. If you don't want people to pay on the day, make the game all ticket. If you let people pay on the day and beg them to turn out in numbers to ease your financial problems, don't complain when people do exactly that. I wouldn't wish going down or going bust on many teams. I feel really sorry for Bury's fans. They deserve better than the incompetent arseholes who run their club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Looking through yesterdays programme i see preston took 2706 fans in sept - if the stand holds 2100 i wonder what sort of planning went into housing that lot? The shoved them at the other end and gave them a bit of the south stand too, by the looks of it. http://www.footballforums.net/forums/showthread.php/290446-Bury-v-Preston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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