mike newton gone

[Lee Sinnott]

Chron seems to suggest he wanted to give it to Gray?

 

In that case, he deserved to go.

[rudemedic]

Not at all O4U! I think by virtue of asking that very question we can scrutinise what people like Ian Hill do for the club. Please can somebody sway me away from the feeling I get of "bugger all".

 

I think Ian Hill is supposed to be the local "real estate" expert isn't he? What that means he does, god knows?

[Matt]

I think Ian Hill is supposed to be the local "real estate" expert isn't he? What that means he does, god knows?

I think you're on the money mate tbh.

 

Which leads me onto this; he must have known that the touted plot in Failsworth for the stadium was a trustees site and not Council property?

[Bring Back Ronnie Moore]

intersting comments in the chron,

 

' the club should look forward and not back like a museum'

 

suggests ritchie/bunn etc....

 

We can't waste this opportunity. Which is basically what we'll be doing by giving the job to Ritchie and Bunn. it may increase revenue on the short term but when things start going wrong attendances will drop again.

 

Give Jim Gannon a 3 year contract. Let him build his own team, we know how he likes to blood young talent through.

 

Look at all the players Stockport pretty much brought through and sold in the past couple of years:

 

Liam Dickinson - 600k

Anthony Pilkington - 600k

Jim Mcnulty - 150k?

Oli Johnson - Undisclosed

Tommy Rowe - Undisclosed

Michael Raynes - Undisclosed

Carl Baker - Undisclosed

Josh Thompson - Compo?

Anthony Elding - 300k?

James Tunnicliffe - Undisclosed

Curtis Jones - Undisclosed

Michael Ordish - Undisclosed

 

As well as that he brought through some good players who went on frees 'cause of their contract situation and Stockport not having money to renew them: Gary Dicker, Michael Rose.

 

Now compare that to who we have sold in the past couple of seasons:

 

O'Grady - 95k?

Davies - ??

Eardley - 250k?

 

Trotman the year before at 500k.

 

Now, if Gannon can get the best out of the likes of Eaves, Taylor, Smalley, Black and our other youth players that creates more revenues stream for us to stabilise ourselves further and spend more on the playing side with wages and perhaps transfer fees.

 

And if Gannon is as strict as people say, great! Because he won't take crap and half-heartedness from the young players who think they've made it. He'll demand more from them and they'll respect him. Which gets them performing on the pitch, helping us do well in the league, more bums on seats and makes them more valuable to sell on.

 

Gannon is the right appointment, and we shouldn't hang around. Get him in now!

Edited May 10, 2010 by Bring Back Ronnie Moore

[Gaz_Oafc]

We can't waste this opportunity. Which is basically what we'll be doing by giving the job to Ritchie and Bunn. it may increase revenue on the short term but when things start going wrong attendances will drop again.

 

Give Jim Gannon a 3 year contract. Let him build his own team, we know how he likes to blood young talent through.

 

Look at all the players Stockport pretty much brought through and sold in the past couple of years:

 

Liam Dickinson - 600k

Anthony Pilkington - 600k

Jim Mcnulty - 150k?

Oli Johnson - Undisclosed

Tommy Rowe - Undisclosed

Michael Raynes - Undisclosed

 

As well as that he brought through some good players who went on frees #cause on their contract situation and Stockport not having money to renew them: Gary Dicker, Michael Rose.

 

Now compare that to who we have sold in the past couple of seasons:

 

O'Grady - 95k?

Davies - ??

Eardley - 250k?

 

Trotman the year before at 500k.

 

Now, if Gannon can get the best out of the likes of Eaves, Taylor, Smalley, Black and our other youth players that creates more revenues stream for us to stabilise ourselves further and spend more on the playing side with wages and perhaps transfer fees.

 

And if Gannon is as strict as people say, great! Because he won't take crap and half-heartedness from the young players who think they've made it. He'll demand more from them and they'll respect him.

 

Gannon is the right appointment, and we shouldn't hang around. Get him in now!

 

Apparently, according to a few Stockport fans, Jim Gannon was at some pub after Stockport's final game of the season and said something along the lines of 'i wont be goin anywhere near Oldham'

 

so i read on their forum yesterday

Edited May 10, 2010 by Gaz_Oafc

[al_bro]

What was his remit? can anyone remember.

I think he was responsible for finding finance the new stadium.

 

He also said in his interview after Penny went. "If anyone does not give everything against Charlton I will make their life a misery". He obviously didn't intend going then, therefore this seems a bit strange.

[futchers briefs]

I think that's the remit for all directors isn't it. Let's look at this a bit more...

 

Ian Hill for instance, what does he do?

Ssshhh Mr Rummy - I have 'gone there' before and told how he follows the club up and down the country and loves the club!!!

I'm not interested in all of that!

- as a director - what is his role??

[Matt]

Ssshhh Mr Rummy - I have 'gone there' before and told how he follows the club up and down the country and loves the club!!!

I'm not interested in all of that!

- as a director - what is his role??

Well, let's join forces.

 

So far I've got:

 

* He's an expert in property and estate. However he can't be that much of an expert if he didn't know about the Failsworth problem.

* He follows the club up and down the country. I'm not sure if this includes overnight stays in hotels at the Clubs' expense though, so I won't add that in.

 

Anything else I wonder?

[shefflatic]

We can't waste this opportunity. Which is basically what we'll be doing by giving the job to Ritchie and Bunn. it may increase revenue on the short term but when things start going wrong attendances will drop again.

 

Give Jim Gannon a 3 year contract. Let him build his own team, we know how he likes to blood young talent through.

 

Look at all the players Stockport pretty much brought through and sold in the past couple of years:

 

Liam Dickinson - 600k

Anthony Pilkington - 600k

Jim Mcnulty - 150k?

Oli Johnson - Undisclosed

Tommy Rowe - Undisclosed

Michael Raynes - Undisclosed

Carl Baker - Undisclosed

Josh Thompson - Compo?

Anthony Elding - 300k?

 

As well as that he brought through some good players who went on frees 'cause of their contract situation and Stockport not having money to renew them: Gary Dicker, Michael Rose.

 

Now compare that to who we have sold in the past couple of seasons:

 

O'Grady - 95k?

Davies - ??

Eardley - 250k?

 

Trotman the year before at 500k.

 

Now, if Gannon can get the best out of the likes of Eaves, Taylor, Smalley, Black and our other youth players that creates more revenues stream for us to stabilise ourselves further and spend more on the playing side with wages and perhaps transfer fees.

 

And if Gannon is as strict as people say, great! Because he won't take crap and half-heartedness from the young players who think they've made it. He'll demand more from them and they'll respect him. Which gets them performing on the pitch, helping us do well in the league, more bums on seats and makes them more valuable to sell on.

 

Gannon is the right appointment, and we shouldn't hang around. Get him in now!

 

Totally and utterly my thoughts - exactly what this club needs and would stop powers from above medling in team affairs (ALLEDGEDLY SC recruited ferreira from chelsea hence why shez never played him), JG would stop this immediately.

If he is dead set on County then fair enough as he is a legend there, but he isnt stupid and being in a job is better than none at all the way things are going with the county bid.

 

However, Mike Newton's comments seem to point that AH is going back again to ritchie/bunn -

i will support them of course, but really think we need gannon long term and dont think AR/FB have it in them.

 

I do think AR was treated badly by Moore and didnt deserve to go though and dd well at Barnsley, it is the time at Hudds with a good budget that worries me. If it is them then good luck to them and I hope they can sort us out and do well for us, but something tells me we are missing a massive trick in Gannon (if he has declined the job then i guess these two are the next bet although Coleman at Accy would be another target for me, Everton fan and has done well on f!ck all money - ring any bells?.....)

 

[futchers briefs]

Well, let's join forces.

 

So far I've got:

 

* He's an expert in property and estate. However he can't be that much of an expert if he didn't know about the Failsworth problem.

* He follows the club up and down the country. I'm not sure if this includes overnight stays in hotels at the Clubs' expense though, so I won't add that in.

 

Anything else I wonder?

Possibly 'instrumental' in advising the club to 're-develop' BP with houses/flats etc, given his local knowledge of land and house prices etc and knocking down the Clayton and the Lookers as a result?

 

Pre TTA and having a property expert on board, the club didn't seem to have many worries over land, redevelopment and also had 4 stands and a clubhouse - of sorts - though I do know we hit a credit crunch.

[Stitch_KTF]

Well, let's join forces.

 

So far I've got:

 

* He's an expert in property and estate. However he can't be that much of an expert if he didn't know about the Failsworth problem.

* He follows the club up and down the country. I'm not sure if this includes overnight stays in hotels at the Clubs' expense though, so I won't add that in.

 

Anything else I wonder?

 

I don't know what Ian Hill does for the club. Neither do I know what he takes out though seeing as I imagine it to be little more than all I'll not worry.

 

I'd be more interested to know who that Chaim Beniker (or something similar) is.

[razza699]

ATHLETIC are coping with more upheaval behind the scenes following the departure of director Mike Newton.

 

The 39-year-old New York-based businessman leaves following a disagreement at board level over how best to move the club forward.

 

Newton, who was present at Saturday’s last home game of the season against Charlton, expressed his sadness at his situation which has come to a head only days after the sacking of manager Dave Penney.

 

“I joined last July and since then I feel I have given the club good value financially and must have been over eight times from New York,” said Stoke-in-Trent-born Newton, a financial trader.

 

“I have done my best to sort out issues and have worked hard for the club and am disappointed I can’t take my involvement further.”

 

Newton also gave his backing to caretaker boss Martin Gray, who presided over Athletic’s 2-0 home defeat to Charlton which rounded off the season.

 

Gray is set to meet with managing director Simon Corney and chief executive Alan Hardy either this afternoon — depending on when the Football League meeting in Walsall finishes — or tomorrow to discuss his future.

 

“I think at some point it is important to start looking forward and not back,” added Newton on the issue of appointing a new manager.

 

“The club has a fantastic history. But it shouldn’t become a museum.

 

“It has to be progressive and not look back all the time or else it will wither on the vine.

 

“Martin is prepared to make difficult decisions.

 

“He has a real feel for the club and is desperate to do well and give the fans something.

 

“His training sessions are very professional and I would personally say he is a strong candidate.”

 

Newton’s departure leaves the club with six board members: Corney, Hardy, chairman Simon Blitz, Danny Gazal, Ian Hill and Trust Oldham chief Barry Owen.

 

“We wish Mike well in the future, whatever he decides to do,” Hardy said.

 

Managerial applications have continued to arrive at the club over the weekend and Athletic will want to secure their new man at the helm in time to take full advantage of the group of players released on free transfers when contracts end on June 30.

 

Athletic’s retained list is likely to be unveiled on Friday, once players themselves have been spoken to.

 

“A lot of people have telephoned to express an interest in the job and at the moment we have had a good selection,” Hardy added.

 

 

oo 8 times? wow

[Matt]

Possibly 'instrumental' in advising the club to 're-develop' BP with houses/flats etc, given his local knowledge of land and house prices etc and knocking down the Clayton and the Lookers as a result?

 

Pre TTA and having a property expert on board, the club didn't seem to have many worries over land, redevelopment and also had 4 stands and a clubhouse - of sorts - though I do know we hit a credit crunch.

So far then, probably not enough to warrant a seat on the board of Directors. That's an Executive position - so he's on the payroll too.

 

Y'know what? I beggining to think we're having our pants pulled down.

[Matt]

I don't know what Ian Hill does for the club. Neither do I know what he takes out though seeing as I imagine it to be little more than all I'll not worry.

 

I'd be more interested to know who that Chaim Beniker (or something similar) is.

Hey, it might all be misconceived tittle-tattle, but my point is not entirely what he's taking out (although it'd be interesting to find out), but what he's put in.

 

Chaim Beniker (open to correction) is another enigma. What does he do I wonder...

[wardlelatic]

Hey, it might all be misconceived tittle-tattle, but my point is not entirely what he's taking out (although it'd be interesting to find out), but what he's put in.

 

Chaim Beniker (open to correction) is another enigma. What does he do I wonder...

 

 

From my understanding, Chaim is a local respected figure and friend of TTA who was asked to sit a club President. No active role only friend of the club

[Hometownclub]

I don't know what Ian Hill does for the club. Neither do I know what he takes out though seeing as I imagine it to be little more than all I'll not worry.

 

I'd be more interested to know who that Chaim Beniker (or something similar) is.

He has been pointed out to me and he sits in the Director's Box at every home game, but I don't know what if anything he does at the club.

[tangerinedreams]

I can further quote it was about 5.30 in the evening of a night game, which is far close close for comfort. A trolley might bang into the player and cause immensee damage.

Although I would guess we are seen more and more in Lidl these days.

 

 

 

The shopping trolleys in Lidl don't have the bar at the bottom which cracks the achillies when some old dear isn't watching where she is going though, so might be a good idea to shop at Lidl afterall....

[wardlelatic]

He has been pointed out to me and he sits in the Director's Box at every home game, but I don't know what if anything he does at the club.

 

You may have been told who is to be the wrong person. Chaim hasn't attended many games this year.

[Matt]

From my understanding, Chaim is a local respected figure and friend of TTA who was asked to sit a club President. No active role only friend of the club

Thanks for that Rick. I wonder if you can shed any light on the other issues? Is it true the Failsworth problem has cost the club thousands and thousands of pounds, although this issue could've been prevented if an expert in estates and property was appointed to help the club?

[wardlelatic]

Thanks for that Rick. I wonder if you can shed any light on the other issues? Is it true the Failsworth problem has cost the club thousands and thousands of pounds, although this issue could've been prevented if an expert in estates and property was appointed to help the club?

 

The Failsworth project isnt something that has gone through as smoothly as Blitz would have liked. I think (dont know in any certainty) due diligence on the site wasnt up to standard. Oldham Council shouldnt have agreed to the rental of space without knowing its history... the condition of sale for the Lancaster Club was in my opinion poorly advised

[leeslover]

Thanks for that Rick. I wonder if you can shed any light on the other issues? Is it true the Failsworth problem has cost the club thousands and thousands of pounds, although this issue could've been prevented if an expert in estates and property was appointed to help the club?

Mr Corney told us that the Failsworth planning and application process had cost a large sum all round, L & E may be able to give you a more detailed figure although I can;t honestly remember if this was through the Club accounts.

[Matt]

Mr Corney told us that the Failsworth planning and application process had cost a large sum all round, L & E may be able to give you a more detailed figure although I can;t honestly remember if this was through the Club accounts.

Thanks for that Andy.

 

The Failsworth project isnt something that has gone through as smoothly as Blitz would have liked. I think (dont know in any certainty) due diligence on the site wasnt up to standard. Oldham Council shouldnt have agreed to the rental of space without knowing its history... the condition of sale for the Lancaster Club was in my opinion poorly advised

So, in your opinion it was poorly advised. Which in turn cost "a large sum", and Blitz isn't happy about the project or indeed it's lack of "smoothness". One can assume that the club or directly Blitz has been coughing up the readies for the blunder.

 

So who provided Oldham Athletic/Council with the reports for the plot with a view to rent? Ian Hill?

 

Why is it that when property or estate is on the agenda at Latics, it all goes tits up? As Futchers Briefs earlier mentioned, was he "instrumental in advising the club to 're-develop' BP with houses/flats etc, given his local knowledge of land and house prices etc and knocking down the Clayton and the Lookers as a result?"

 

To quote FB again: "Pre TTA and having a property expert on board, the club didn't seem to have many worries over land, redevelopment and also had 4 stands and a clubhouse - of sorts."

 

 

Are we being taken for a ride here?

[rudemedic]

From my understanding, Chaim is a local respected figure and friend of TTA who was asked to sit a club President. No active role only friend of the club

 

Not so sure how local he is (to Oldham) as I thought he was a big shot in the Bury/North manchester Jewish community (I'm sure one or two posters might know in a bit more detail). The fact that his position is meerly a figurehead/decorative probably means he doesn't take much out of the club coffers any way.

[jsslatic]

Not so sure how local he is (to Oldham) as I thought he was a big shot in the Bury/North manchester Jewish community (I'm sure one or two posters might know in a bit more detail). The fact that his position is meerly a figurehead/decorative probably means he doesn't take much out of the club coffers any way.

 

I've never heard of him and am not aware of any role he has in the community. Like you say though, I can't imagine him taking much out of the club.

[wardlelatic]

Thanks for that Andy.

 

 

So, in your opinion it was poorly advised. Which in turn cost "a large sum", and Blitz isn't happy about the project or indeed it's lack of "smoothness". One can assume that the club or directly Blitz has been coughing up the readies for the blunder.

 

So who provided Oldham Athletic/Council with the reports for the plot with a view to rent? Ian Hill?

 

Why is it that when property or estate is on the agenda at Latics, it all goes tits up? As Futchers Briefs earlier mentioned, was he "instrumental in advising the club to 're-develop' BP with houses/flats etc, given his local knowledge of land and house prices etc and knocking down the Clayton and the Lookers as a result?"

 

To quote FB again: "Pre TTA and having a property expert on board, the club didn't seem to have many worries over land, redevelopment and also had 4 stands and a clubhouse - of sorts."

 

 

Are we being taken for a ride here?

 

 

No idea who advised the club in the procurement of land, that info as never been made common knowledge IIRC. ??