philliggi Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 IF we got relegated after losing to Southampton on the final day of the great escape season IF John Sheridan hadnt made THAT challenge giving us the division one title IF Corazzin had scored instead of hitting the bar against qpr in the play off semis at there place IF Hughes had of hit the bar in the FA cup semi IF we lost to reading on the final day of the season, getting relegated to the basement division There are so many important moments in our history that define what OAFC is today. but if they happened a slightly different way, could we be far better or even far worse off than we are now? If we had got relegated in the great escape season, would we have bounced straight back up? or would we have dropped like a stone like we eventually did anyway? I had this conversation some weeks ago in the pub before a game, and people opinions vary wildly. The thread about The guardian artical just brought it back to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 If Peter Ridsdale hadn't decided we were 'beyond saving' in 2003.... It was horrible at the time but imagine what state we'd be in now if he'd took over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondLatic Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 IF we got relegated after losing to Southampton on the final day of the great escape season IF John Sheridan hadnt made THAT challenge giving us the division one title IF Corazzin had scored instead of hitting the bar against qpr in the play off semis at there place IF Hughes had of hit the bar in the FA cup semi IF we lost to reading on the final day of the season, getting relegated to the basement division There are so many important moments in our history that define what OAFC is today. but if they happened a slightly different way, could we be far better or even far worse off than we are now? If we had got relegated in the great escape season, would we have bounced straight back up? or would we have dropped like a stone like we eventually did anyway? I had this conversation some weeks ago in the pub before a game, and people opinions vary wildly. The thread about The guardian artical just brought it back to me. If Sheridan hadn't made that tackle, then none of the subsequent events would have happened as it would have altered the space-time continuum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytrap Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 If that **** head striker (forgotten his name) hadn't injured pogliacomi at the end of our dowie/playoff season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 If Sheridan hadn't made that tackle, then none of the subsequent events would have happened as it would have altered the space-time continuum. That Sheridan tackle which led to that Redfearn penalty won us the old Division 2 Title, we would still have been promoted to Division 1 just not as Champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookers87 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 (edited) There was a fantastic book out a few years ago called something like Footballs What If's??? One of the chapters was "What if Mark H****s' volley had cleared the bar..." it then went on to outline how, after winning the semi we went on to win the FA Cup final against a chelsea team we'd already done the double over that season. The following season saw a relatively successful european campaign aided by some quality players bought in the summer and a challenge near the top of the table. Meanwhile the reds were distraught by the semi-final loss losing the title aswell that year and hitting a spiral as Fergie kept some of the older players from that season to challenge again, Blackburn winning the title the following season by a mile and left united languishing. It was an excellent read and kind of made you think just how significant split-second events can have such a knock-on effect....I'm going to try and find that book! If Littlejohn hadn't injured Pogs? If we'd never installed the plastic pitch? ...If Ken Bates hadn't left us when he did? Edited May 8, 2008 by lookers87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 What if Jimmy Frizzell wasn't offered the manager's job all those years ago? We had years of applying for re-election!!! KEEP THE FAITH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StipeTripe Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 IF Hughes had of hit the bar in the FA cup semi Can't blame Hughes, doing his job, so how about If Graeme Sharp hadn't missed that absolute sitter minutes earlier to put us 2-0 and finish them off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Can't blame Hughes, doing his job, so how about If Graeme Sharp hadn't missed that absolute sitter minutes earlier to put us 2-0 and finish them off? What if Simon Tracey hadn't kung fu kicked Sean McCarthy? He was clean through on goal and surely would've buried the late chance, to win us the game vs Sheff United and then we only would've needed a point at home to Spurs or at Norwich. That for me was the moment we were relegated, although he recieved his marching orders they were still able to bring on Alan Kelly our 'bogey' keeper at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLatics Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 If TTA's hadn't have come along, to name one closer to home. We may cease to exist... or then again, we could be in the EPL now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 EPL Division 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 IF Gregan had not gone in that chippy and brought infamy on himself, we would have one less song to sing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics and England Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I think that Wembley 94 is the game that probably has the most 'what ifs' in it. Had we won that game, I have no doubt that we would have stayed up that season and also won the FA Cup. We were a much better side than Chelsea at the time. In theory, this would have meant that we'd have had investment the following season and been able to strengthen our position in the Prem but I'm not convinced that it would have happened. Lees' would have pocketed the money as they were doing at the time and I suspect that we could still have gone down the next season. Missing out on a European campaign will always hurt though because I don't believe it will ever happen again. I also suspect that had we lost that game in normal time, we would have still stayed up. It was the pure heartbreak of how we lost that led to us failing to win another game. I'm sure this will be hugely controversial, but "What if Chris Moore hadn't taken us over?" Now, to clarify, what that tw*t did to my club is unforgivable and I'm pleased that he has gone some way towards getting his just deserts since, but I believe that him taking over the club was a positive thing. At the time we were in a real mess and without someone coming in, I'm sure the club would have died. The money invested gave me one of my favourite seasons ever. I guess the more pertanent one would be "What if Chris Moore had been a decent human being?" Then, we might all be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoasis Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 If Leeds hadn't won on away goals in the 1987 semi-final play-offs or the simple fact that if the play-offs were not introduced as we would have been promoted automatically that year !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 ...."What if Chris Moore hadn't taken us over?" Now, to clarify, what that tw*t did to my club is unforgivable and I'm pleased that he has gone some way towards getting his just deserts since, Has the investigation into money 'resting in his account' been concluded yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slurms mckenzie Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Can't blame Hughes, doing his job, so how about If Graeme Sharp hadn't missed that absolute sitter minutes earlier to put us 2-0 and finish them off? Or if my memory serves me right, Milligan had not lost the ball, rather than blasting it into the stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Or if my memory serves me right, Milligan had not lost the ball, rather than blasting it into the stand. Or if Joe Royle had brought on Andy Ritchie instead of Beckford. I remember a discussion between a group of fans along the lines of, with just a few minutes to go Sharp was kicking the ball out for throw-ins near United's goal line to waste time whereas Beckford couldn't/wouldn't jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 ...or if the turnstile doors were painted a different shade of blue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I guess the more pertanent one would be "What if Chris Moore had been a decent human being?" Then, we might all be happy. Decent or not-what if he had kept his nerve and we'd started the following season with the same squad of players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Decent or not-what if he had kept his nerve and we'd started the following season with the same squad of players? Sooner or later, if he didn't also done the (absolutely blatantly obvious) right thing and buy back the ground, we'd have finished up in an even bigger mess than the one he left us in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 This may sound a bit weird but if Paul Dickov (yes the very same ex City player) hadn't scored twice on his debut (or in his first few games anyhow) Crystal Palace would have got a draw they needed and we'd have gone down no matter what the result was against Southampton. Our cup run the year after would have been the same teams (the original number would have been the same) but we'd have been a high flying Championship (Div 1 I think in those days) team and we could well have been on the verge of promotion (as if memory serves me when we did get relegated the teams coming up weren't exactly stellar). That meant that the season after instead of having a indifferent year in a tough Div 1 (and seeing Joe Royle go to Everton in the process) we would have been in the Premiership and with some sound investment could well still be there. Hughes's volley is always talked about but I think that in the long run we may have been better off going down the year before, but at least that goal was legitimate and wasn't incorrectly ruled out unlike in 90. Otherwise what if the Man U supporting official hadn't ruled out a valid goal by Nick Henry, Man U would have lost the semi in 90 we would have had another final against Palace (where we might have been favourites given our cup record that year). Fergie would have got fired. Ryan Giggs, Nicky Butt, Paul Scoles, the two Nevilles and more might well have played for the Latics (didn't a whole bunch of that United Youth team play at Boundary Park Juniors). We would have gone on to win the cup qualify for Europe where we would have beaten a lot of the teams (Christ United played Wrexham on their way to winning it) become a stellar force in English football just as the Premiership was being formed, Boundary Park would be renamed the Bovis Arena and be 50,000 all seater and dominated worldwide football with fans from Wiltshire to Singapore. But then again we'd have the bad karma of being the equivalent of United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Sooner or later, if he didn't also done the (absolutely blatantly obvious) right thing and buy back the ground, we'd have finished up in an even bigger mess than the one he left us in. Can't really make any sense of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I didn't think you would. It's true though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I didn't think you would. It's true though. I can't tell whether it is or not as I can't make head nor tail of the garbled language. Do it again and then see me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Yes Miss.... Er... Sooner or later, if he didn't also buy back the ground (the absolutely, blatantly obvious thing to do), we'd have finished up in an even bigger mess than the one he left us in. That's better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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