outoftheblue Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Ah well, if he didn't get sent off this game he would have next week when he came up against Keigan Parker. SSHHH! You'll have people suggesting he got himself sent off cos he was scared of facing Parker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 He was sent off before he had chance to speak. It was a booking. No more. John Terry did worse. If it isn't turned over the ref is pathetic for not admitting his error. He had a marvellous game before the wrong sending off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outoftheblue Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 How did the penalty decision look OS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 How did the penalty decision look OS? Definate penalty to me. I swore blind that it wasn't, but it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 MatchLive said foul & abusive language. Still a needless dismissal even if it was for the foul (If Big Gordon was right in saying it was on the halfway line. And the penalty (Again)? Anyone know whether he was unlucky or was it a rash challenge? Come on Greegs, these are becoming far too frequent. Like y'self i haven't been, but i can't understand how you can say 'needless dismissal' and 'these are becoming far too frequent! With Greegs, unfortunately, you are going to get these incidents as he is that type of player and that is why when on song he is one of the best centre halves at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 (edited) To me, he was up there for man of the match before the wrong sending off. It was a certain booking, but I feel he (the ref) followed the anti-Darlington Gregan stuff. Needless is not the right phrase by any stretch of the imagiantion. The lad attacking was moving towards a very dangerous situatuion. I would say a very professional foul. I can think of only one defender in our division that I would rather have than Gregan and I saw him today. Edited September 20, 2008 by OldhamSheridan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 To me, he was up there for man of the match before the wrong sending off. It was a certain booking, but I feel he (the ref) followed the anti-Darlington Gregan stuff. Needless is not the right phrase by any stretch of the imagiantion. The lad attacking was moving towards a very dangerous situatuion. I would say a very professional foul. I can think of only one defender in our division that I would rather have than Gregan and I saw him today. bit harsh to call for a witch hunt after one red isnt it...and a very dodgy red at that... if according to a mate of mine it was no more than a yellow then i reckon shez will appeal it. grregan is always going to run this risk the older and slower he gets,everytime he comes up against a fast attacker he has to rely on his know how and positioning and muscle to get through the game and nullify the attack.... i certainly wouldnt want to swap him for anybody else in this division thats for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 According to the Hartlepool match report, it was a late challenge and they admit it was harsh. Didn't look harsh from where I was . Bloody dreadful challenge. Lad running with the ball crossing the halfway line and Greeegs came sliding ing after the lad has knocked it further forward. 55/45 ball and he missed it and put their lad right up in the air. Thought he was going from the moment he made contact with him Thought it was a penalty especially after they had a really strong shout at 1-0 when Eardley tangled with their winger in the box which the ref didn't give.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafckev Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 I thought it was a red however I also thought that John Terry's rugby tackle was also worthy of a red but he appealed and got away with it. The only thing stopping it being a red is where the incident took place and he wasnt going on to score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Nope, I was there. Deserved red. Interesting view. I am not 100% clear on the rules for the straight red. If you prevent a goa scoring opportunity, this equates a red card even if the foul is not intentional i.e. a genuine attempt to the get the ball. However there is no way that the referee could have interpreted the incident today as a goal scoring opportunity in my opinion - on half-way line and heading diagonally towards the toughline. Then there is the professional foul. Is this different to the above if the referee indicates that the challenge was cynical with no attempt to play the ball even with no goal scoring opportunity? If so Gregan had to go. But I have seen lots of cynical blocks etc on halfway lines that result in yellow not red cards. Therefore I think it was a booking and the referee has mis interpreted the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiecat Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Danny Wilson,interviewed on a local radiio station,said"Gregan had to make the challenge,but simply mistimed the tackle,no malice involved" From our crap view,i would rather listen to Wilson's version of events,a couple of yards from the incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Danny Wilson,interviewed on a local radiio station,said"Gregan had to make the challenge,but simply mistimed the tackle,no malice involved" From our crap view,i would rather listen to Wilson's version of events,a couple of yards from the incident. Fair point. I can only comment on my view of the incident, and concede DW had a better one. If he is willing to put that on record it would significantly help with any appeal we might make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiecat Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Fair point. I can only comment on my view of the incident, and concede DW had a better one. If he is willing to put that on record it would significantly help with any appeal we might make. Listening to his interview,i can see no reason why he wouldn't! Gave the impression that he had enjoyed the game tremendously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordy Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Never in a million years a red card even the hartlepool fans i spoke to afterwards agreed just a stone wall yellow i think everyone was shocked when he whipped out a red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prendy_1984 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Scapegoat please tell me your jokin. A deserved red? Never. He took him down and yes it was cynical but it wasn't dangerous and certainly wasn't preventing a goal scoring opportunity as he was near the touchline five yards in our half. So what was the straight red for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 So what was the straight red for? I'm assuming for serious foul play. Never a pro-foul, the lad had far too much to do before scoring. I think Gregan intended to go in and take both ball and man, the force he put into it. I'd be pretty surprised if we appeal and it gets overturned, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prendy_1984 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Well it certainly weren't serious foul play. A yellow yes, but never a red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordy Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 It was like John Terry's the other day, Gregan was never getting there and therefore was prepared to take a yellow as they were breaking at speed, noway was it a goal scoring opportunity therefore im guessing the referee will say it was wrecklace and dangerous which it wasnt really. Despite Danny Wilson saying it wasnt a red card i can guarantee it won't be rescinded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Well it certainly weren't serious foul play. A yellow yes, but never a red I'm inclined to agree with you but it all depends on what it says in the refs report. The FA usually stick by their men-in-black unless it's something glaringly obvious. Like giving a goal when it should have been a corner perhaps (As what apperently happened in the Reading-Watford game today). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellys_discopants Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Never a red card but a needless tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prendy_1984 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Hardly needless, they were breaking and it wouldve been dangerous. I think Gregan made that tackle knowing it would be a yellow, but the ref made a shocking decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordy Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Never a red card but a needless tackle. Anything but needless haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellys_discopants Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Hardly needless, they were breaking and it wouldve been dangerous. I think Gregan made that tackle knowing it would be a yellow, but the ref made a shocking decision They were breaking but it wasnt like they were at the edge of our box ... to be fair as soon as he set off it was clear he wasnt going to get anywhere near the ball. Why go and jump in, could have just gone across and stood up ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prendy_1984 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 But it was never a red. I start a ref's course tomorro and have the rule book infront of me and I am confident it wasn't a red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellys_discopants Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 But it was never a red. I start a ref's course tomorro and have the rule book infront of me and I am confident it wasn't a red I know i said it wasnt a red card, just a needless tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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