boundaryblue80 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) Sorry, All this talk about quazimodo. Can somebody remind me once again how poor our home record actually was under him or have people really forgotten. Lost to Cardiff, Wycombe, Luton, Wigan, Crewe and Plymouth and drawing with Cheltenham, Blackpool, Peterborough, Notts County, QPR & Port Vale. We also lost at home to Cheltenham in the FA cup. Whilst we might have smashed poor sides like Mansfield, Swindon and Chestefield, we failed to win half of our home games, losing 6 times and this fact alone probably cost us automatic promotion. With our away record and form that season, that is unforgivable based on his budget. Our success that season was based on clean sheets and our away record. IIRC we didn't lose an away league game until sometime in March when we went down to Bristol City. And it was Dowie's ridiculous decision to "rest" players for the last league game at Hudderfield that saw us lose home advantage in the second leg of the play offs. A victory would have ensured home advantage in that 2nd leg. For me a fatal mistake at such a vital point of the season. So overall the choice for me would be between Stich & Shez, with Shez just shading it, based on his (probable) 3 top 8 finishes in 3 seasons. Cheers, Harry I think anyone in that season after would've struggled to make us anywhere near competitive. Which is what we were. Also, the season before was the toughest this league has ever known. Hence scores so highly. As for that Udders game...agree 100% on that. Was pissed off too and possibly cost us getting to the final. But Shez was guilty too of that failing (ie not getting 3rd or 4th) as we slipped from top of the league to almost not making the playoffs under Shez 2yrs ago. For me, if we get in the playoffs this season, getting 3rd or 4th is paramount! Edited January 25, 2009 by boundaryblue80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I don't buy into the theory that divisions are easier or harder in any particular season, it ignores teams (Scunthorpe, Blackpool etc) who don't fit into the Big Club category but play very good football or have winning strategies. Davros achieved nothing that Sheridan hasn't done, and was still demanding more money. And although there were a lot of exciting matches under Davros, the best football I've seen from us since back in the day has been under Sheridan. There's been dome tripe as well of course, but it wasn't always brilliant in the days when Baudet, Eyre and Mini-Shez were pulling the strings for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste1987 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Great Poll! Personally think it was Iain Dowie as much as i hate him now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 i know this board is for people to get across their own opinions on latics but... come on who voted for graeme sharp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLatics Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) i know this board is for people to get across their own opinions on latics but... come on who voted for graeme sharp? Pfft, forget that, 2 people have voted for good old Brian! Edited January 25, 2009 by JoeLatics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste1987 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) i know this board is for people to get across their own opinions on latics but... come on who voted for graeme sharp? Haha i just noticed that and was going to type a "MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN!" post! Interesting results with Dowie and Sheridan pretty much on par with each other. Edited January 25, 2009 by ste1987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wozz_oafc Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I don't buy into the theory that divisions are easier or harder in any particular season, it ignores teams (Scunthorpe, Blackpool etc) who don't fit into the Big Club category but play very good football or have winning strategies. Davros achieved nothing that Sheridan hasn't done, and was still demanding more money. And although there were a lot of exciting matches under Davros, the best football I've seen from us since back in the day has been under Sheridan. There's been dome tripe as well of course, but it wasn't always brilliant in the days when Baudet, Eyre and Mini-Shez were pulling the strings for us. I would normally agree with you but around Dowies season there was an awful lot of money being thrown around at this level. Unusual amounts to be honest, which i doubt will be seen again. IMO the top 7 in Dowies play off season may well have held their own in the division up. The standard of players at the top of our division that year was very very high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wozz_oafc Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I don't buy into the theory that divisions are easier or harder in any particular season, it ignores teams (Scunthorpe, Blackpool etc) who don't fit into the Big Club category but play very good football or have winning strategies. Davros achieved nothing that Sheridan hasn't done, and was still demanding more money. And although there were a lot of exciting matches under Davros, the best football I've seen from us since back in the day has been under Sheridan. There's been dome tripe as well of course, but it wasn't always brilliant in the days when Baudet, Eyre and Mini-Shez were pulling the strings for us. I would normally agree with you but around Dowies season there was an awful lot of money being thrown around at this level. Unusual amounts to be honest, which i doubt will be seen again. IMO the top 7 in Dowies play off season may well have held their own in the division up. The standard of players at the top of our division that year was very very high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Haha i just noticed that and was going to type a "MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN!" post! Interesting results with Dowie and Sheridan pretty much on par with each other. its a very close run thing between shez and dowie... dowies team was superfit and played some strong football,we had a lot of decent players who new what there jobs were... under shez we have played far more flair football as i call it,but without any great conviction or consistancy... time will tell,if we go up this season then its shez all the way isnt it,that said i think it would be a harder job to keep us in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 To be fair, Sharp never got us relegated and from a higher division too. He tried his hardest though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonBlueLad Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 To be fair, Sharp never got us relegated and from a higher division too. He tried his hardest though! If he'd stayed another three months it certainly would have been mission complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegtt Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Whats more interesting is all these people thinking Shez cant do a job for us (which he clearly can looking at current league position and previous seasons results) who do they expect to come in and do a better job? I voted for Shez. Consistent with my expectations tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Whats more interesting is all these people thinking Shez cant do a job for us (which he clearly can looking at current league position and previous seasons results) who do they expect to come in and do a better job? I voted for Shez. Consistent with my expectations tbh Come on who voted Ronnie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm going for John Sheridan, with a play-off season, a top eight season with a decimated/young side and now this season where he's challenging again - with very little in the budget - it's pretty amazing. Dowie had a lot of ideas, but relied on a bigger budget to compete - and even then we failed... Shez out? Well we seem to think he's the best thing we've had since Joe! Latics Fans = Opportunity Moaners... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadam Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 John Sheridan is a legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafckev Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Sheridans Managerial History 06/07 Season League (Inc Play Off’s) : P 48 W21 D12 L15 Cup: P6 W2 D1 L3 Total: P54 W 23 D13 L18 07/08 Season League: P46 W19 D13 L14 Cup: P9 W5 D1 L3 Total: P55 W24 D14 L17 08/09 Season League: P31 W14 D11 L6 Cup: P:5 W1 D2 L2 Total: P36 W15 D13 L8 3 YEAR TOTAL: League: Played- 125 W 54 D 36 L 35 Cup: Played- 20 W8 D4 L8 Total Played- 145 Won - 62 Drew - 40 Lost - 43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Cheers so a 43% win ratio pretty good higher than Joe or Jimmy accepting longer periods. I think you've got to consider the levels though. We are a good team in this division, but a poorer team in Division 2. Therefore Royle has a much higher standing in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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