Corporal_Jones Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 with a couple of games in hand. we are a midtable team and only that. we might not be there at the moment but we will be att he end of the season. relegation would be disasterous but if we went down and came back up playing better football, wouldnt that be better than going up and finishing bottom? i dont want to go down but football is football at any level and id prefer to see winning football than depressing football. we'd probably lose more fans in the long run going up too. You'll get your wish when a plucky bunch of Latics semi-professionals are stringing together a winning run in the Conference North. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 (edited) I can't believe some people see going down as a better option than going up! Some Latics fans have become frightened of their own shadows. That's why the prospect of a little lower division stadium in Failsworth is so appealing-it takes off any pressure to succed. They can settle back and enjoy those compelling local derbies with Bury, Stockport, Rochdale (?) and Crewe. Edited January 11, 2010 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 No, Now what do I win ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 It's an Only Fools joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Clearly too subtle for me. I apologise profusely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Ah, fois gras, fois gras. Or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Sugarsnap peas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Definitely not. We would lose our best player and asset in Chris Taylor. The crowds would drop and if we are realistic we probably wouldn’t be good enough to come straight back up. We would no longer get a decent travelling support from the Leeds/Huddersfield/Leicester/Wednesday type sides that constantly find themselves in league one. Our biggest away crowds would be Rochdale and Bradford. If we went down would we retain Penney? Or would we get rid of him for taking us down when the season before we were a decent team. If we got rid of him we would have to bring in a new manager and new players. Upsetting any kind of balance of rhythm we may have. Notts County have as good a, if not better squad than we do and they are hardly setting the league alight! On the plus side Parker might turn into a 6 a season striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadam Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 why are people so negative? Course we don't want to get relegated. Only good thing about it. Would be many new grounds for me. Also l quite like the little grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 If we went down I'd support City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Glory hunter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 (edited) Also l quite like the little grounds. Good job really. Relegation or not. Edited January 11, 2010 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie_blue Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 People said exactly the same thing after the previous two relegations. What will happen is that the club will, as usual, 'cut it's cloth accordingly, ' and after a short time we'll find ourselves struggling to retain FL status. and the club won't cut the cost of watching the games neither = further depleted fan base. The only way is up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsmad Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 and the club won't cut the cost of watching the games neither = further depleted fan base. The only way is up. I' msorry but they would have to cut prises. Nobody is going to pay $20 for virtual non-league football. Lets hope it never comes to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 and the club won't cut the cost of watching the games neither = further depleted fan base. The only way is up. If we go down, all that will have happened is that the fate we escaped at the end of Ritchie's first season in charge will have been delayed by eleven years. Back then I remember people calling us the new Doncaster. The only difference is that there will be no quick recovery at this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Some Latics fans have become frightened of their own shadows. That's why the prospect of a little lower division stadium in Failsworth is so appealing-it takes off any pressure to succed. What a pile of arsebiscuits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 What a pile of arsebiscuits. Have it your way, but it's more than obvious really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Definitely not. We would lose our best player and asset in Chris Taylor. The crowds would drop and if we are realistic we probably wouldn’t be good enough to come straight back up. We would no longer get a decent travelling support from the Leeds/Huddersfield/Leicester/Wednesday type sides that constantly find themselves in league one. Our biggest away crowds would be Rochdale and Bradford. If we went down would we retain Penney? Or would we get rid of him for taking us down when the season before we were a decent team. If we got rid of him we would have to bring in a new manager and new players. Upsetting any kind of balance of rhythm we may have. Notts County have as good a, if not better squad than we do and they are hardly setting the league alight! On the plus side Parker might turn into a 6 a season striker. Every cloud's got a silver lining..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 with a couple of games in hand. we are a midtable team and only that. we might not be there at the moment but we will be att he end of the season. Let's be realistic; there are very few teams that we have two games in hand over, and a fair few who've played the same number we have. We're a midtable team if and when we get into midtable. But don't kid yourself, as things stand, we're in a relegation battle. And how many times have we seen teams who saw themselves as 'too good/big to go down' make the drop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Have it your way, but it's more than obvious really. I'm sorry fo dragging this one up as it was slipping down the board. CJ, ur gonna have to explain this one to me. I don't want to sound blonde or anything but how the hell can we, the fans, be frightened of succeeding? Do u really think we go and sit in the cold praying we lose so we don't have to suffer promotion? Or is it the thought of bigger clubs bringing more fans that you think maybe has us trembling? I don't get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 What about Doncaster? They were on the verge of going under and playing to crowds of a few hundred when they got relegated to non-league. A bit of stability followed, then a push for promotion and suddenly the crowds were flying back in and they were getting a few thousand by the time they were near the top of the conference. The club and the town needs some sort of 'feel good' factor. Even if, by some miracle, we scraped a run together and got promoted (not going to happen but just say it did) there would be little change in the crowds in the Championship. People would be preparing themselves for relegation and at the first sign of trouble we would be back to 5000 again. When was the last 'feel good' time at BP? 1990-94? All the marketing gurus and ideas in the world won't attract crowds back to BP. Promotion probably wouldn't either. One thing that might is a squad of local youngsters starting from scratch together, building a style of play, building understanding and working their way up the league. To be honest, I can't see that happening in this division as the demand to get out sees the constant short-sighted purchasing of journeymen and dodgy loan signings. Just to clarify, I don't want to get relegated. What fan would? Just suggesting a possible silver lining, irrespective of how unlikely it might be. I'm just an optimist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 The club and the town needs some sort of 'feel good' factor. Even if, by some miracle, we scraped a run together and got promoted (not going to happen but just say it did) there would be little change in the crowds in the Championship. People would be preparing themselves for relegation and at the first sign of trouble we would be back to 5000 again. When was the last 'feel good' time at BP? 1990-94? All the marketing gurus and ideas in the world won't attract crowds back to BP. Promotion probably wouldn't either. I'm just an optimist. Well there u go. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. We may as well just throw it all in now and all go support utd or city. If that's ur idea of optimism I'd had to see ur dark side. I bet Simon Corney must have the headache of doom if he's reading this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Well there u go. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. We may as well just throw it all in now and all go support utd or city. If that's ur idea of optimism I'd had to see ur dark side. I bet Simon Corney must have the headache of doom if he's reading this stuff. Mmm. End of the world was not quite what I was going for. First up, I was trying to offer a potential positive side to relegation. Secondly, I was saying that promotion wouldn't guarantee a big increase in crowds. But I suppose if you're going to be selective with quotes from my post then I guess it could have got misconstrued. And I said I was an optimist, not a blind optimist. There is an attitude that comes across on here of negativity. This wouldn't vanish if we went up. We'd be moaning about not spending enough, not winning enough, not being entertaining enough and the crowds would soon drop if we were struggling. People are looking around and saying "why can't we be like them? We were in the prem 15 years ago". As far as I'm concerned, supporting a team like Latics isn't about being in the premiership and having a team full of free transfer foreigners. Going to Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge, putting 11 men behind the ball and praying for a 0-0. I'd be much happier being lower down the food chain but with a team full of youth team products who play like they actually give a flying frig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Funnily enough, as little as three years ago I felt exactly the same. Then I realised that such a strategy wouldn't suffice in keeping professional football in Oldham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Brian Talbot pretty much got sacked for saying it might have been better if we had gone down. We should aim to be as high as we possibly can be instead of just giving up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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