oafcprozac Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) Does seem a bit pie in the sky to me, all if, buts and maybes….but yer never know…. Meat on the bones... Edited June 17, 2011 by oafcprozac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 So Liam dickinson is a no go for now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) So Liam dickinson is a no go for now? Supposedly but he of 'multi-personalties' who posts on .co.uk, reckons he's seen him at BP…..i've heard whisperings he was being considered too…. Edited June 17, 2011 by oafcprozac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) /] Edited June 17, 2011 by oafcprozac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 stephens for mcdonald? I'd take it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) stephens for mcdonald? I'd take it! So would i!! please make that be! Dickov said that he is not interested in liam dickinson. Edited June 17, 2011 by LaticsLee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 stephens for mcdonald? I'd take it! If Norwich accept the deal today, we'll chuck in Warren Feeney too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 If Norwich accept the deal today, we'll chuck in Warren Feeney too! Latics selling themselves short again ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) The Chron hints at a player swap. So which of our players would they think are ready to play in the Premier League then? I would be very surprised if Norwich are seriously considering Stephens. I don't even think that one of our players is capable of playing above Championship level at this moment. Edited June 17, 2011 by PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 The Chron hints at a player swap. So which of our players would they think are ready to play in the Premier League then? I would be very surprised if Norwich are seriously considering Stephens. I don't even think that one of our players is capable of playing above Championship level at this moment. Maybe they want potential? Tarky? Winchester? Mellor? or of Course Stephens, Lee, Furman? The GInger 'Tokyos' Ninja? Foster Tits from the Ticket Office? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLee Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 The Chron hints at a player swap. So which of our players would they think are ready to play in the Premier League then? I would be very surprised if Norwich are seriously considering Stephens. I don't even think that one of our players is capable of playing above Championship level at this moment. it would be between stephens and taylor, them two are the only ones who it could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 The Chron hints at a player swap. So which of our players would they think are ready to play in the Premier League then? I would be very surprised if Norwich are seriously considering Stephens. I don't even think that one of our players is capable of playing above Championship level at this moment. But neither is Cody McDonald. I guess if you are Norwich you look at the long temr capabilities of both players - one who will never make top division and one rougher player that it isn't impossible, if unlikely. Whereas we want the player that can score goals now, rather than a want away midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 But neither is Cody McDonald. I guess if you are Norwich you look at the long temr capabilities of both players - one who will never make top division and one rougher player that it isn't impossible, if unlikely. Whereas we want the player that can score goals now, rather than a want away midfielder. It strikes me that Norwich are being very shrewd in their transfer dealings to date. Instead of panicking and signing a bunch of Prem league mercenaries, they appear to be signing players with a view of bringing them in to develop – possibly stocking a team ready for the Championship if they were to be relegated straight back down. If they are interested in dale Stephens; then I’d imagine it would be for the season after; not this season they would be signing him for. A la the signings of Elliott Bennett et all IMO. So, a Dale for Cody deal might be feasible after all........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penrhyn Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 It's also possible that Lambert & Dickov are very good friends and this relationship may come into play swinging any possible deal in our favour. Be nice if it came off however doubtfull it would appear at the moment, you just never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penrhyn Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 It's also possible that Lambert & Dickov are very good friends and this relationship may come into play swinging any possible deal in our favour. Be nice if it came off however doubtfull it would appear at the moment, you just never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Stumbling block even if a swap deal is agreed involving Stephens (which I still have to say i think is highly unlikely), we would owe Bury 20% of what a tribunal deemed the deal to be worth, right? So let's say the deal goes ahead and is valued at 500k, do we have 100k lying around to give to Bury? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhamandy1 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 I don't know if a swap deal would mean we would have to Bury some money, after all they get 20% of the transfer fee with a player swap there isn't one so we could get away with that. Unless they demanded 20% of McDonald so what maybe his hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 (edited) Believe clubs have to accept the agreed value so little Bury can do in that scenario you win some you lose some ie Porter ..... But if he is valued at £500K (or whatever) by a tribunal then Bury are entitled to 20% in cash and would Latics have it. . That's the point that was being made by LeylandLatic. OldhamAndy - sell on clauses are binding even if it's a swap deal with a valuation made by a tribunal. There's been the same discussion about Micah Richards. Edited June 18, 2011 by apple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpo Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 They could work round it... Monday June 20 - "Norwich striker Cody McDonald joins Oldham for £50,000" Wednesday June 22 - "Canaries snap up midfielder Stephens on free transfer" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 They could work round it... Monday June 20 - "Norwich striker Cody McDonald joins Oldham for £50,000" Wednesday June 22 - "Canaries snap up midfielder Stephens on free transfer" They're valued by tribunal if no value is met by Bury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 They're valued by tribunal if no value is met by Bury. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Partly correct but if McDonald signs for Oldham for £20,000 and Stephens goes the other way for £10,000 Bury get 2 nothing they can do about it. It has happened before. Simpo is spot on... Because Bury dont agree means nothing. Its like Richards we will end up getting nothing. It can even be done as loans. It doesn't work like that....Bury will get their 20%! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 I wouldn't really want to shaft Bury anyways. We wouldn't be happy if Citeh were ever to shaft us regarding Richards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 OF WHAT? if fee agreed. does it still go to a tribunal? Hasnt that been said about Richards in past if used as a makeweight in a deal WE get nothing. Accept could be wrong but level of compo is low. IF mutual loans ...cant see how they can? 20% of what. Both go to Scotland get nothing so a fee by mutual agreement is better than nothing. If Bury don't agree, it goes to tribunal. If it's a loan or a free transfer (say, to Scotland) then it is valueless, so they get 20% of the nothing that we get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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