razza699 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16064924.stm Edited December 8, 2011 by razza699 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoasis Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 No brainer for me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Its absolutely disgusting its been reduced. It was always going to happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I voted yes to taking him, but I think we have zero chance of winning it. Pukka, I presume you're on a wind up, it was a certainty that the ban would be reduced it should only have been 2 games in the first place. The precedent for this type of offence was set with Arshavin a while ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I voted yes to taking him, but I think we have zero chance of winning it. Pukka, I presume you're on a wind up, it was a certainty that the ban would be reduced it should only have been 2 games in the first place. The precedent for this type of offence was set with Arshavin a while ago. I'm not on the wind up. I don't care less about the national side - I'm looking at it as a neutral. This was "violent conduct" - I'm not saying it was bad, but the rules (laws) are there. Arshavin shouldn't have had his at 2 either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 This was "violent conduct" Nope, that charge does not exist within uefa disciplinary code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I think just kicking someone because you are losing is far worse than mis-timing a tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I think just kicking someone because you are losing is far worse than mis-timing a tackle. So do I. But we were winning. So where does "kicking somebody because you're stupid" fit? 2 match ban is what it should be under UEFA's own code. So the decision to reduce on appeal is right. Equally, had it happened in a club match in Englamd, a 3 match ban would have been right as that's what the rules stipulate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 He was :censored: at the last world cup... He is a liability... I would take him as a backup and nothing more... We won't be winning it one way or the other... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 He was :censored: at the last world cup... He is a liability... I would take him as a backup and nothing more... We won't be winning it one way or the other... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I'm with 0000s. I don't think we should take him on the off chance that we get through the group stage, at which point (so the theory goes) he'll fire us all the way to...defeat in a penalty shoot-out. He's shown time and again that he's not got the "ice in the head" that you need to win at that level. Total liability. Far more likely to explode than to knock one in from 25 yards having beaten half a team. If we're going to do anything in the summer, we have to be disciplined. We've got players who can be disciplined, so why bother with Rooney? He'd not get in the German team for that reason alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I'd take him for when we need a draw to get through to the knockout stages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I'd take him for when we need a draw to get through to the knockout stages He's a thick tit - a liability,head-case and a granny-shagging muppet. He also happens to be our nations best player by a country mile & so for that reason alone; he has to go. But when is all said and done, We have the sum total of naff-all's chance of winning the tournement so we might as well take Rene Howe and play him up top as much as Rooney, we'll be lucky to get out of the group stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Not at all... I totally mean what I say... I think Rooney is total liability and more than overrated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 BUMP Some rite :censored:in retards on 'ere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Interestingly, Rooney's discipline since that sending off is pretty remarkable: 35 games, 1 booking (and that one was a tad harsh, IMO). Gary Linekar would have struggled to match that in today's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 If we had anyone decent, I wouldn't take him. We don't so he's in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Not at all... I totally mean what I say... I think Rooney is total liability and more than overrated... You've changed your tune. We had this discussion a couple of years back where I said exactly this and you shouted me down about how good he is and how we should build the team around him. Overrated, always has been, always said it. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 You've changed your tune. We had this discussion a couple of years back where I said exactly this and you shouted me down about how good he is and how we should build the team around him. Overrated, always has been, always said it. . Scores a few though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Scores a few though. Not saying he's :censored:, just he's ridiculously overrated and believes his own hype. The whole,"new gazza" tag was absurd. Gascoigne had more ability and far more intelligence on the ball. The thing about the really great players is they don't look for the difficult ball every single time, they play simple and wait for the right opportunities. Rooney gives the ball away unnecessarily over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Not saying he's :censored:, just he's ridiculously overrated and believes his own hype. The whole,"new gazza" tag was absurd. Gascoigne had more ability and far more intelligence on the ball. The thing about the really great players is they don't look for the difficult ball every single time, they play simple and wait for the right opportunities. Rooney gives the ball away unnecessarily over and over again. No doubt Gazza had it. Rooney will have a better career though. Ferguson seems to have put him on the straight and narrow. Something Gazza could have done with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Rooney is the only truly quality player we have going forward. Our only hope of doing anything in this tournament is hoping we aren't eliminated before the last group game, and then hope he does the business once he is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Not saying he's :censored:, just he's ridiculously overrated and believes his own hype. The whole,"new gazza" tag was absurd. Gascoigne had more ability and far more intelligence on the ball. The thing about the really great players is they don't look for the difficult ball every single time, they play simple and wait for the right opportunities. Rooney gives the ball away unnecessarily over and over again. I disagree. He's one of the few English players that can keep hold of the ball. No one other than Rooney has the ability to win anything for England at the moment (Wilshire is the nearest). But, by the same line - I think the current (and ten years future) England squad is as unlikely to win a tournament as I am likely to nail Sarah Louise out of corry! Come on England!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Hes our best player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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