the_mighty_bosh Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) Cisak Winchester Byrne Mvoto Grounds Croft Furman Wes (M'Changama if Wes isn't fit) Montano Smith Simpson/A.N Other I'd be tempted to start Wes but I get the feeling he's not quite ready yet, M'Changama will fill in adequately. If we had another striker I drop Simpson to the bench but Taylor doesn't seem to be ready yet and we have no one else! EDIT: Montano up front and Hughes on the left is an option although I'd prefer to keep Montano on the left. Edited September 14, 2012 by the_mighty_bosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 i'd go with that. prefer winchester to play than tarky, and prefer byrne in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Another "drop Simpson" He's getting the flack for being played in the wrong position...again. The amount of times on the forum last season that I read "Dickov is putting square pegs in round holes", now we're reverting to it ourselves. Tell Simpson to stay out of the area because he's not going to put away the majoritty of chances he recieves. Get him probing around the edge of box, between the midfielders and striker, Smith, as a link up. That Central Attacking Midfield Position is also simply a distraction for the defenders, it puts them out of position as its a nuisance to mark. When will everybody see that he is no striker? And as for Winchester at RB, he looked far too lightweight in CM and dare I say it, not interested. I'd play Tarky, even though I have criticised him so far this season, in CB with M'Voto and Byrne in RB. Defence hasn't been the problem thus far so changing the personnel, including the addition of a fringe midfielder, seems a tad unecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Cisak Winchester Byrne Tarkowski Mvoto Grounds Croft Furman Wes (M'Changama if Wes isn't fit) Wes on bench Montano Smith Simpson/A.N Other I'd be tempted to start Wes but I get the feeling he's not quite ready yet, M'Changama will fill in adequately. If we had another striker I drop Simpson to the bench but Taylor doesn't seem to be ready yet and we have no one else! EDIT: Montano up front and Hughes on the left is an option although I'd prefer to keep Montano on the left. FTFY Tomorrow is going to be Matty Smith day - I can feel it in my water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLatics Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Another "drop Simpson" He's getting the flack for being played in the wrong position...again. The amount of times on the forum last season that I read "Dickov is putting square pegs in round holes", now we're reverting to it ourselves. Tell Simpson to stay out of the area because he's not going to put away the majoritty of chances he recieves. Get him probing around the edge of box, between the midfielders and striker, Smith, as a link up. That Central Attacking Midfield Position is also simply a distraction for the defenders, it puts them out of position as its a nuisance to mark. When will everybody see that he is no striker? And as for Winchester at RB, he looked far too lightweight in CM and dare I say it, not interested. I'd play Tarky, even though I have criticised him so far this season, in CB with M'Voto and Byrne in RB. Defence hasn't been the problem thus far so changing the personnel, including the addition of a fringe midfielder, seems a tad unecessary. I agree Simpson is not a striker, but he has been playing between the lines and he's done nothing of real note. However, we do not have the weight in numbers to drop Simpson to the bench. If Wesolowski was 100% fit I'd be happy to see Simpson dropped. His attitude has been appalling. I'm seeing a different side of him this season and it's not at all positive. He needs to show a major improvement, but to be fair to him our collective lack of imagination hinders him. Matt Smith wins a lot in the air, but a lot of balls are wasted and when he's in front of Smith (with Smith back to goal) he won't see much of the ball. However, that is not to say he shouldn't be relying on that excuse. For me, Simpson doesn't look hungry enough. But, as ever, it's a clean slate. We got our first victory at Portsmouth, and tomorrow is a difficult game, but we can win it, and we'll certainly do our chances a world of good if we all have a positive outlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 From the games I've seen I wouldn't be dropping Simpson on merit, it would be due to tactical reasons i.e. him and Smith not being suited to playing with each other and Smith being the more effective of the 2 so far. Both are link players for different styles of play, Smith for flick-on's in the aerial battle and Simpson dropping deep, getting the ball to feet and playing on the floor from there. Both need a striker who's always looking to play on the last defender. Similar case with Tarky, he's been at fault for a few of the goals but doesn't deserve the criticism to the extent that he has so far. I'd drop him because the Byrne/Mvoto partnership looked like it had the potential to be strong whereas Byrne at RB and Tarky/Mvoto in the centre has many flaws. Winchester may not be as good as Tarky but having him at RB would improve the balance of the team no end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticdickovarmy Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) Wow we actually have options! Cisak Byrne Tarky JYM Grounds Croft Furman M'Chanagman Montano Simpson Derbyshire What I would expect Baxter Smith Wes Winchester Bozzy Hughes Mellor Thats a top 12 team there imo if get best out of players no excuses but of course we will get injuries and for once competition for places as Brown back in a RB as well, would just like one more CB in now Edited September 14, 2012 by laticdickovarmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Wow we actually have options! Cisak Byrne Tarky JYM Grounds Croft Furman M'Chanagman Montano Simpson Derbyshire What I would expect Baxter Smith Wes Winchester Bozzy Hughes Mellor Thats a top 12 team there imo if get best out of players no excuses but of course we will get injuries and for once competition for places as Brown back in a RB as well, would just like one more CB in now Why drop Smith? From sound of it he's been performed well in the last two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 If Derbyshire is ready for tomorrow then he would be exactly the striker to put alongside either Smith or Simpson. Nothing against Simpson but Smith has earned himself a starting place IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticdickovarmy Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Why drop Smith? From sound of it he's been performed well in the last two games. I wouldn't drop him Rob I would play him but dont think PD will which is very harsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhamoafc Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 If we had a fully fit team then: Cisak brown JYM byrne grounds Croft Wes Furman baxter Simpson Derbyshire but team for tomorrow will probably be: Cisak byrne Tarky JYM Grounds Croft Furman Mchangama Montano Simpson Derbyshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveoafc91 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) Derbyshire and baxter up front def! Edited September 14, 2012 by daveoafc91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 We could play 4-3-1-2 with Baxter playing just behind Simspon and Derbyshire or Smith? ------------------Cisak------------------ Winchester-Mvoto-Byrne-Grounds -----Croft------Furman-----Montano ------------------Baxter----------------- ---------Simpson----Derbyshire----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I'd start Derbyshire up front with Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 FTFY Tomorrow is going to be Matty Smith day - I can feel it in my water Byrne at Right Back is disastrous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Its a reveleation having options, need similar in other areas of the park, but that is being greedy! You could perm about 5 diffeerent partnerships now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Plus Baxter has been with them for a while and settling in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Can't see Baxter & Derbyshire both starting tomorrow. Match fitness will be an issue for both so maybe one of the two with Smith who, I think, should be allowed to continue his run, but things seem to be looking up at last if only until kick-off but, you know, I'll take that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kings Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 From what I hear it's possible Baxter isn't fully match fit so would make sense to bring him on in second half last 35 min? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I reckon he'll go Smith and Derbyshire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Cisak M'Voto Furman Wesolowski Montano Hughes Smith Taylor Derbyshire Baxter Simpson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I don't think either will be fully match fit. I just wonder what Matt Smith thinks about all this. (Will Dan Taylor even make the squad?) Plays well for two games and it looks like he is back on the bench. It is great to have options up front but our results have been poor because of the defensive errors which rob the whole team of confidence. So lets hope it is 3 2 tomorrow with goals for Derbyshire, Baxter and Smith when he spells one of them late on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sykelatic1 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Cisak M'Voto Furman Wesolowski Montano Hughes Smith Taylor Derbyshire Baxter Simpson Now that's the spirit! like Big Joe all over again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) Now that's the spirit! like Big Joe all over again! I thought I'd overcooked the midfield. Harsh to leave Croft out! Edited September 14, 2012 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4froale Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 cisak winchester mvoto byrne grounds croft wesolowski furman montano simpson derbyshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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