jimsleftfoot Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 VAT If a donation I.e. the giver has the option not to give it, VAT is not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddogs Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Mansfield give up 96 seats today with the names of those who sadly lost there lives,Liverpool fans chant 'Your support is f@cking :censored:',it's a no from me sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Good idea and using Gift Aid would increase by 20% the 96p donated by taxpayers at no extra expense to them. A form has to be completed. If a voucher is to be given out at the Brentford game, perhaps it could incorporate all the information required by HMRC. http://www.hmrc.gov....ng/gift-aid.htm Though the club does need to be wary about holding the queue up so people should have to take the forms with them rather than fill out at the time of purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 charitable donation would enable VAT and taxable gross to be deducted ..... done in the right way? any accounts about? I'm a VAT specialist - the 96p could be treated as a donation but only if freely given I.e. people would have to have the option not to give the 96p. Also would be a good idea to have it written down what it is for and who the money is going to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Let me get this right....Now the truth is out, won't the 96 families simply win the court case for the compensation? I think these lawyers should go No win no fee. Sorry folks I say no. They've now got their justice with the truth, if they want to get lots of cash also then they do it alone for me. Fazakerley - haven't they got legal aid anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Though the club does need to be wary about holding the queue up so people should have to take the forms with them rather than fill out at the time of purchase. Could have someone running up the queue with forms and clipboards so they're done by the time you reach the ticket office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Hasn't this #jft96appeal done what it was supposed to do? Or has the appeal gone down another avenue, what's it raising money for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Sorry but can I ask what the 96p is going towards? What does it pay for? Does anyone have a handy link? I would also like to point out that we have already had an FA cup game this season on a very significant day for a good cause this season for which we did nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 If we're all so bothered with the relevance of the number 96, then charge the Scousers 96 quid for a ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Could have someone running up the queue with forms and clipboards so they're done by the time you reach the ticket office. in which case they could have a bucket and take the money at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I know a bloke with a clipboard and spare time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Apparently the donated money goes towards the families of the dead's legal costs they built by trying to achieve their goal of having the government apologise and release the real events and cause of the Hillsborough Disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyOAFC Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 If we're all so bothered with the relevance of the number 96, then charge the Scousers 96 quid for a ticket. Or only let 96 of them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Good point re. What's it going to though? The single sales went towards the legal costs and the government said on Dec 20th that they would pay for the families legal representation, so is there still a need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Yeah! :censored: being nice! Who's with me?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) I'm thinking of the positive publicity the club would get, wether it's per ticket, donation buckets, or donating a signed shirt. Hillsborough is news, this game is news and we need to be Good at this pr/marketing stuff It's a Good suggestion and worthy of feedback wether positive or negative Underdog Edited January 6, 2013 by tangerinedreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 They should get 15% of the stadium. We will easily sell the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) How much did Liverpool FC pay for Henderson and Downing? How many hundreds of millions were spent buying Liverpool FC? How much a day does Luis Suarez earn? What's the minimum cut Liverpool FC get from the Sky TV deal? While well intentioned, I'm a little uncomfortable with forced charitable giving. Especially when the football club involved has obscene amounts of money going through it. While not a charity PlayerShare earns less than £10k a year. Perhaps we should ask Liverpool fans to donate 96p each to help us strengthen our squad. Not trying to be a miserable old git, but it doesn't feel quite right. If it's about PR, there are, I'm sure, other ideas that could eat this. Edited January 6, 2013 by opinions4u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) Wrong thread Edited January 6, 2013 by tangerinedreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 How much did Liverpool FC pay for Henderson and Downing? How many hundreds of millions were spent buying Liverpool FC? How much a day does Luis Suarez earn? What's the minimum cut Liverpool FC get from the Sky TV deal? While well intentioned, I'm a little uncomfortable with forced charitable giving. Especially when the football club involved has obscene amounts of money going through it. While not a charity PlayerShare earns less than £10k a year. Perhaps we should ask Liverpool fans to donate 96p each to help us strengthen our squad. Not trying to be a miserable old git, but it doesn't feel quite right. If it's about PR, there are, I'm sure, other ideas that could eat this. It's not about the big, wealthy club though. It's about the families of your everyday football supporter who lost members of their family and who need money for legal costs to overturn the verdict of the original enquiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 They should get 15% of the stadium. We will easily sell the rest. How has this turned into another thread about ticket allocation?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 If the club wants good PR, It can do something. I really do not believe the 96 families do not need our cash. They will in due course be awarded bucket loads. I am so pleased they've got their justice they sort, but they didn't need our charity for that. However I would back any showing of support the club wants to give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 It's not about the big, wealthy club though. It's about the families of your everyday football supporter who lost members of their family and who need money for legal costs to overturn the verdict of the original enquiry. They won't need money. They will get plenty be assured of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 It's not about the big, wealthy club though. It's about the families of your everyday football supporter who lost members of their family and who need money for legal costs to overturn the verdict of the original enquiry. I know. I haven't voted in the poll. The whole Hillsborough thing affected me greatly as an ordinary football fan. The last 23+ years of bollocks that those families have had to suffer has also hit home. I couldn't be more sympathetic. Maybe my post above is wrong. They were my initial instincts though. I don't like forced giving. Twist my arm, encourage me, wave a bucket in my face or whatever. But don't force a "donation" out of me. Doesn't feel right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliofashy Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Not a chance. Remember 12 months ago????? Ask them all to pay 96p towards "KICKING RACISM OUT OF FOOTBALL" Give them nothing, their fans were out of order last year and we should not forget that. Give them nothing but a hostile reception for the way our own was treated last year. Put ourselves first for a change, no apology go stick your 96p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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