longtimeblue Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Abysmal. Not a positive for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Abysmal. Not a positive for me. Struggling for one too. Grounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceskylatic Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Grounds was tidy,the rest looked poor.Missed Furman in the middle,Winchester looked lost and still very lightweight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 Struggling for one too. Grounds? To be fair, didn't do much wrong. Battled and won a ball he had no right to win to get a cross second half but all in all, after the recent optimism, it's grim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoafc Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 After The Lord Mayors show!........that was dreadful. It's no good doing it in one off matches. The league is our bread and butter and today wasn't good enough by a long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 And Smith.... I know he's everyone's flavour of the month at the moment but he offered nothing today (my brother said first 10 minutes he was good but I arrived at 3.20)... Balls over the top are wasted to him, no pace, tries to take down when he should let it run... To be fair, balls into him were poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 And Smith.... I know he's everyone's flavour of the month at the moment but he offered nothing today (my brother said first 10 minutes he was good but I arrived at 3.20)... Balls over the top are wasted to him, no pace, tries to take down when he should let it run... To be fair, balls into him were poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Their back two were slow. Smith wasn't quick enough to outpace them, despite some promising through alls second half. I'd have had Taylor on much earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddogs Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I thought smith did ok,won more or less everything in the air but no one running on to his headers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 We played deeper and deeper , hoofing it to Smith , who to put it politely is paceless ....... Please can someone else take our corners , they are totally ineffective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4froale Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Great news about Baxter staying but the rest of today was abysmal, still sat here wondering what dickov is doing in a job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Unless we sign another striker to play alongside Smith before next week (with Baxter playing deep), I'd like to see Taylor take his place at Coventry. On a bigger pitch Smith will be ineffective on his own, we need a player who runs the channels and Taylor can't be worse at that than Smith can he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) Their back two were slow. Smith wasn't quick enough to outpace them, despite some promising through alls second half. I'd have had Taylor on much earlier. How about put Taylor on from the first minute? How can we ask a slow, clumsy 6"6 striker to play upfront on his own, especially when his primary threat is flick-ons and nobody is there to run onto them? Why 1 or the other? We desperately need goals yet continue to play this 1 up front idea. Bewilders me, it really does. Edited January 12, 2013 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehobbit Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) Smith won most things first half but no one picked up the flicks AGAIN! we cant play long ball and have his chief support 10 yards away if we are going to go route one it needs be 2 out and out forwards.... First half we were OK creating chances but Smith tires and thats it our attacking play hurried desperate and just down right poor. We need reinforcements and fast... Croft what did he offer today? legs have gone....played in down the wing a few times but each time looked for the foul rather than trying to get a ball in or beat a man. hes got a good touch but he cant handle playing as an out and out winfer anymore Edited January 12, 2013 by bluehobbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nava Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 The main problem today for me was we tried our hearts out and got dicked 2-0, Brentford never broke sweat and dicked us 2-0. I expect this to happen against the scousers not a fellow league one side. If they had gone for our throats it could quite easily of been 4 or 5. It needed changing a lot earlier on but we carried on with Simpson on the wing who was truley awful. Not his fault he isn't a winger and should be competeing with Baxter for the attacking midfield slot but Dickov has this mentality that he has to play and fits him in where ever he can. Also we have nothing up front. Smith is only on the pitch to win the headers and get the flick ons but its absolutely pointless flicking them on when no bugger is close to him. Apart from his ability to challenge in the air I'm afraid Smith just does not have enough about him and I doubt he would catch at any other of the 91 clubs at the pro level. It also doesn't help when your defence gives away easy goals week in week out. I also get the feeling todays subs were a way of Dickov saying to Corney "look these youngsters arn't up to the challenge I need more addition's" as we were already well beaten and the changes he did make were baffling to say the least. Kirk Millar Playing the holding roll in centre mid is well up there with the worst subs I've ever seen. Things need to change and quickly, Personally now Baxter is signed up there is no reason to keep Dickov and I'd get rid. Nice man but poor manager. But I do think he will be here whilst were still in the cup at least, and unfortunatly that has masked his failings in the league for over 2 years now. As much as I've loved the cup runs I think we would struggle to bounce back from relegation and we need to avoid that happening at all costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I too thought Brentford never got out of first gear , few of the other seven winning away teams have either. I think if did somehow equalise(not a clue how this might happen) they would step it up and score again , a la Crewe . Glad he has signed but .....Baxter can't do it on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluearmyof1 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 To be fair we played some decent stuff. Made more chances than them. They bullied us off the park though and made us look lightweight. I'd rather watch us any day of the week, at least trying to play some decent football than them hoofing their opponents off the pitch every Saturday. I really think that if we carry on with an addition or two we will be fine at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollandspies Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 The main problem today for me was we tried our hearts out and got dicked 2-0, Brentford never broke sweat and dicked us 2-0. I expect this to happen against the scousers not a fellow league one side. If they had gone for our throats it could quite easily of been 4 or 5. It needed changing a lot earlier on but we carried on with Simpson on the wing who was truley awful. Not his fault he isn't a winger and should be competeing with Baxter for the attacking midfield slot but Dickov has this mentality that he has to play and fits him in where ever he can. Also we have nothing up front. Smith is only on the pitch to win the headers and get the flick ons but its absolutely pointless flicking them on when no bugger is close to him. Apart from his ability to challenge in the air I'm afraid Smith just does not have enough about him and I doubt he would catch at any other of the 91 clubs at the pro level. It also doesn't help when your defence gives away easy goals week in week out. I also get the feeling todays subs were a way of Dickov saying to Corney "look these youngsters arn't up to the challenge I need more addition's" as we were already well beaten and the changes he did make were baffling to say the least. Kirk Millar Playing the holding roll in centre mid is well up there with the worst subs I've ever seen. Things need to change and quickly, Personally now Baxter is signed up there is no reason to keep Dickov and I'd get rid. Nice man but poor manager. But I do think he will be here whilst were still in the cup at least, and unfortunatly that has masked his failings in the league for over 2 years now. As much as I've loved the cup runs I think we would struggle to bounce back from relegation and we need to avoid that happening at all costs. This. Absolutely spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossrocks Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Only positives for me were Grounds and Changy. Other than that, same old same old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 We played for 90 minutes today like we usually play for the last 10 minutes of games when Smith comes on and we still never even remotely looked like scoring, I really don't understand why we continue to hoof the bloody thing up to Smith when we don't appear to try to get on to the end of his flicks and headers. There is absolutely nothing else to Smith's game and if he was 5'8" he would be nowhere near a football field as his touch and awarness is non-existant, he's actually quite deceptive as he's even slower than he looks....... I think I could give him a 10 yard start and I'm 57!!! If we'd had Donaldson ( a summer target of ours ) up top today I'm sure we'd have won that game as his touch, pace and finishing was top class. I cannot understand why we can't pay the extra £1000 a week required for a decent striker, one hundred extra home fans each week would cover the cost and if it meant we were top half instead of bottom 6 we would probably have an extra 1000 fans coming through the turnstyles!! We have now lost 8 home games this season which is an alarming statistic given the amont of games still to play and unless we can make one or two key signings in the window it will be a real battle for us just to stay in this division! Baxter's contract was great news yesterday but while I would like to think it is our intent to build a side around him for next season I fear it will be more of an insurance that will enable us to get a decent fee for him when he leaves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 How about put Taylor on from the first minute? How can we ask a slow, clumsy 6"6 striker to play upfront on his own, especially when his primary threat is flick-ons and nobody is there to run onto them? Why 1 or the other? We desperately need goals yet continue to play this 1 up front idea. Bewilders me, it really does. This hits the nail on the head - why is Dickov persisting with a 'one up front' striker whose main contribution is to flick the ball on????? There is no-one there to pick up the second ball fer chrissake! If we cannot get Derbyshire back for the rest of the season then stick Taylor up front alongside Simpson with a proper winger playing wide left. #tacticalshambles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Why did he play Matt Smith? Because Matt has played rather well recently. Including winning the free kick that won us the Forest game. Why did he play the other 10? Because that lineup was magnificent for 7 magical minutes a week earlier. Why did he go three at the back? :censored: or bust. ------ Why is Kirk Millar getting game time ahead of David Mellor? Why is Dan Taylor not given more chance to impress when Smith tires? Why was Robbie Simpson so rigidly left wing yesterday? Why have the full backs stopped overlapping? Why, when we have strung more than four passes together on the halfway line, does the ball get passed back to the goalkeeper? Why does Croft nearly always play 90 minutes? Why are our supporters too busy slagging Winchester off to appreciate that fact he got in to the box and had a shot? Unheard of from our midfield! Why was there no tactical plan alongside the substitutions yesterday? Why is Reece Wabara so often out of camera shot when opponents score (see Scunny game)? Why doesn't Furman and Wesolowski work this season when it did last season? Why, with Baxter and Derbyshire added to the squad for most of the season, are we in a relegation scrap? Edited January 13, 2013 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Smith played well last week I agree. He was always tries hard but if you define playing well as missing open goals e.g Crewe etc then I don't agree. Sorry he just looks like he's never going to score. I don't disagree with you. But it wasn't a bad selection based on recent evidence, There were reasons to play him as well as reasons not to. Well the that 10 included Furman. This lineup didn't. Unavoidable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Why did he play Matt Smith? Because Matt has played rather well recently. Including winning the free kick that won us the Forest game. Why did he play the other 10? Because that lineup was magnificent for 7 magical minutes a week earlier. Why did he go three at the back? :censored: or bust. ------ Why is Kirk Millar getting game time ahead of David Mellor? He wanted to bring on a winger I suppose Why is Dan Taylor not given more chance to impress when Smith tires? Baffling to me also. Why was Robbie Simpson so rigidly left wing yesterday? Agree - strange tactical decision. Why have the full backs stopped overlapping? Probably because we don't have a decent defensive midfielder on the park Why, when we have strung more than four passes together on the halfway line, does the ball get passed back to the goalkeeper? No movement up front or no confidence... Why does Croft nearly always play 90 minutes? Solid if unspectacular player - probably because there are worse than him on the pitch I'd say Why are our supporters too busy slagging Winchester off to appreciate that fact he got in to the box and had a shot? Unheard of from our midfield! No-one near me slagged the guy off - however he simply bottled it when in the box and in general had a poor game - simply too lightweight for me Why was there no tactical plan alongside the substitutions yesterday? Paul Dickov has a tactical plan which goes along the lines of either a) lump it forward to Matt Smith or b lump it forward Why is Reece Wabara so often out of camera shot when opponents score (see Scunny game)? Don't agree with this Why doesn't Furman and Wesolowski work this season when it did last season? Both have lost form methinks Why, with Baxter and Derbyshire added to the squad for most of the season, are we in a relegation scrap? Not enough good team players around them See answers in line - please let me know if you have any more questions, thanks. Edited January 13, 2013 by TheBigDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) See answers in line - please let me know if you have any more questions, thanks. Love it! Especially: "Paul Dickov has a tactical plan which goes along the lines of either a) lump it forward to Matt Smith or b lump it forward". Your responses justify numerous supplementary questions. But I can't be arsed. #offtotesco Edited January 13, 2013 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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