Mullet Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 http://sport.bt.com/sportfootball/football/bt-sport-wins-all-live-uk-tv-rights-to-champions-league-and-europa-league-S11363847946944 Looks like Sky really have a proper competitor now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oafc88 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I get a bad feeling this could end up like the ITV sport fiasco all them years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Itv Digital. Setanta. It's a bold move by BT. My concern is that by trebling what ITV / Sky pay it just throws even more money at the continent's richest clubs. UEFA should use the majority of the money to develop lower league / grass roots facilities across Europe. But they won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 The best thing about this, it means less time for Adrian Chiles and Andy Townsend on TV, in fact what with the BBC getting the FA Cup back, most football fans will only have to put up with them for England games and major international tournaments. Whilst I used to enjoy his commentary a few years ago, it means less time for Clive "one night in Barcelona" Tyldsley too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oafc1895 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Is it just me that cant see how BT can be making any money with this. Lets look; You pay for broadband £12 a month the get all this for free. With paying the wages of the 10 million staff around the world, mantaining phone and internet lines plus now £900 for the rights it just looks to me that before they even show a champions league match it will be another ITV digital and our phone and broadband bills going through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Is it just me that cant see how BT can be making any money with this. Lets look; You pay for broadband £12 a month the get all this for free. With paying the wages of the 10 million staff around the world, mantaining phone and internet lines plus now £900 for the rights it just looks to me that before they even show a champions league match it will be another ITV digital and our phone and broadband bills going through the roof. What's free today won't be free tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 What's free today won't be free tomorrow.Exactly, the first one is free (to get you hooked), the second one costs you. Plus whilst BT are offering their sports channels for free, it is only free for some customers and the prices of their other services, eg line rental have gone up, or are going to go up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 http://sport.bt.com/sportfootball/football/bt-sport-wins-all-live-uk-tv-rights-to-champions-league-and-europa-league-S11363847946944 Looks like Sky really have a proper competitor now. I've never given Murdoch any money. I've got BT Sport - watching FSV Mainz 05 v Eintracht Frankfurt on ESPN at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I've never given Murdoch any money. You sure? He is secretly everywhere. The :censored:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 You sure? He is secretly everywhere. The :censored:. Sky shares down, BT shares up today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Sky have countered that with a surprise Quarterly profits up announcement - prices expected to rally... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Sky shares down, BT shares up today. BT have jointed Sky in hell as far as I am concerned. Money will go to those who don't need it and the customer will be asked to pay for something they were getting free. I fail to see why this is ever a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Football has always been a massive loss leader for Sky, they may be shrewd to let s rival have it when the price is so high as to never make it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 It might lead to higher midweek crowds at Boundary Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 It's clearly not about football, or at the very least not in the best interests of the sport. Sky make about £50 a month (£600yr) from each customer: there's 11m customers (of which 7m are sports subscribers) in the UK which is about £6.6bn a year - BT wants some of the action. Sky pay £760m a year for live Prem League rights and earn about £300m a year selling licenses to pubs & clubs (20,000 paying an avg of £15k yr each, according to their own trade association) even before a single home subscription is sold. BT fancy a piece of that. My interpretation of BT's move is that it wants a slice of the subs and by hacking away at the legs of Sky's sporting portfolio, it'll get that - a staw poll conducted yesterday suggested that 60% of Sky subscribers would drop their packages if they lost the Premier League rights; it's just all bad news for Sky - it should be good news for the consumer, but I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I've never given Murdoch any money. You are talking out of your arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullet Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 My interpretation of BT's move is that it wants a slice of the subs and by hacking away at the legs of Sky's sporting portfolio, it'll get that - a staw poll conducted yesterday suggested that 60% of Sky subscribers would drop their packages if they lost the Premier League rights; it's just all bad news for Sky - it should be good news for the consumer, but I doubt it. My interpretation is that Sky, having offered Sky On Demand free with Sky broadband, took a lot of business from BT who then introduced free sport to those who have their BT Infinity broadband to get these customers back. The price of the football to the consumer might not go up as true competition should reduce prices and it will probably continue to be 'free' for BT Infinity customers, but the price of broadband may sneak up a little as they inevitably pay higher prices for more rights to compete with Sky. Although I do of course dislike Murdoch, Sky Atlantic and Sky 1 are bloody good channels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I don't think it is anything to do with football, it is about the broadband and future internet services. BT are a very, very big fish and can afford to write off any losses accrued by their Sport adventure. What they want to achieve is maintain and grow market share in the comms business and are using sport as a carrot. BT own most of the telecoms backbone that Sky, Virgin et al operate on, if BT can have a decent TV offering too then less people will switch to Sky and Virgin for their cabled services. It was the football TV that kept Sky going in the early days, without that killer product there would have been long gone by now, looks to me like BT are just copying Sky's strategy and using their spending power to use that strategy against Sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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