Zorrro Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Can you really blame people for staying away, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Supporters 'impressed' as New York trio aim to revive Oldham's fortunes David Conn: 06 March 2004 Independent Gazal, Blitz and Corney from their base in Flushing, New York, are bright-eyed, enthusiastic, apparently rich. Gazal is American; Blitz, a Londoner, Chelsea fan and childhood friend, went over to stay with him in New York for a couple of months in 1990, to find Gazal setting up a mobile phone business at the dawn of the industry. "Fourteen years later I'm still there," Blitz told me this week, and the pair have done well, becoming distributors for T-Mobile and AT&T from premises in Long Island and LA, available to view on their company's website, www.cncg.com. Corney, 10 years younger, an Arsenal fan who now, three days a week, does the well known commute from North London to Oldham, will be more involved day-to-day. Blitz, on his way to West Ham on Thursday to look at their conferencing operation, told me that as an expat he missed his football, and always kept his season ticket at Stamford Bridge. He and Gazal had watched English clubs flopping into administration and decided they would like to buy one, looked at Hull first, then landed on Oldham. Corney said: "It's very expensive to get involved in American football, but it's a childhood dream to run an English club." As Oldham are losing money and struggling for crowds in the lee of the Manchester clubs, there has to be an angle, and there is: 22 acres of land around Boundary Park. "The first day we went to Oldham, we were shown the land," Blitz said, "and we decided right then we would do the deal." Their idea is that the club will usually need money to keep going, rather than make a profit, so they will develop the land for offices, a hotel, conferencing and banqueting, although their plans are not yet concrete. "We're researching it, visiting other clubs to see what they do, then we will decide," Blitz added. He said that Oldham, a large enough town, has too few such facilities, or places even to hold a wedding, and loses business to Manchester. They want the development to make money for the club and, in the end, be worth something, which will make money for them. Blitz said they had been involved in real estate in the United States, building the warehousing for their own business: "We're not novices." They are paying £4.6m more for the ground and land, while guaranteeing that Boundary Park will still be a football ground in 10 years' time. "Obviously we want it to be there a lot longer than that," Corney said. "We believe we can make this work. We want, within a short time, to be a strong First Division club with good facilities." They expect the property developments to cost between £7m and £12m; Corney said Gazal and Blitz are partly using their own money, partly borrowing. Now don't go thinking you can bring the facts into this :P Its depressing to think that was ten years ago now.... and all we have to show for it is the hope we will get a small stand to replace the one they knocked down... Edited March 13, 2014 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Corney doesnt use his money he is merely a front and protecting the other twos interests, effectively we have been got by the balls and the only difference from when moore spat his dummy out is that they havent pulled the plug yet, they must be well aware that without any further investment we will rot away the new stand isnt going to be a saving grace its going to be empty if the team continues to decline, its catch 22 and it seems the boys over the pond dont want to risk anymore of there hard earned chasing our dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Of course he was in it for the money, but I am certain for the ride too. But you cannot ignore what happened in the intervening 10 years. We are on about PLan Z at the moment. Events Dear Boys, Events. They will not make anywhere near the money the originally intended. Profit is not a dirty word. We need profit to further invest in the team. We have not made a profit (after ALL costs) in years. If SC was in it solely for the money, he would have bailed out years ago. He should get the plaudits he deserves for sticking around so long. How many fair weather fans have desserted us. He stuck by us. Does SC get a salary ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Does SC get a salary ? asked the same myself yesterday nobody knows I would say so for his day to day runnung of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) asked the same myself yesterday nobody knows I would say so for his day to day runnung of the club. I would imagine he does... I would be gob smacked if he doesn't... It would be totally above board for him to be paid! Might be worth finding out the level remuneration before we hold this guy up as someone who is doing it all out of the goodness of his heart... Its easier to stick around when you are being paid to do so. Obviously I have no idea if he is or isn't... but then again I doubt many others who wave the SC and 3TA flag do either... Asking questions around here usually gets a nasty reaction :P Edited March 13, 2014 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Why do so many of you still proclaim TTA/Corney are/were in it for the money as if it's some kind of eureka moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Why do so many of you still proclaim TTA/Corney are/were in it for the money as if it's some kind of eureka moment? I don't think they do.... but some push the concept they did it for reasons above and beyond money.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I don't think they do.... but some push the concept they did it for reasons above and beyond money.... And push the concept that we'd crumble if Corney wasn't here...despite himself saying on Radio Manchester a few years ago (around the time we weren't paying the players at the right time) that if a bus ran over him tomorrow, the club could continue without much disruption at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiecat Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 You are probably right BB, i imagine that on a day to day basis the club would continue to operate without the recently squashed Corney but would we see any improvement both on and off the field ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 You are probably right BB, i imagine that on a day to day basis the club would continue to operate without the recently squashed Corney but would we see any improvement both on and off the field ? Is Corney financing the development of the new tuck shop in place of the Lookers himself ? Didn't think so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiecat Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Check it out 0000 next time you call down to BP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Check it out 0000 next time you call down to BP I wouldn't hold your breath at that happening any time soon :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiecat Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 That is a shame, although the progress with the new stand seems painfully slow, constant observation of the site can provide a welcome distraction to the football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Villains Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 "They've admitted that they have made mistakes" Christ...this :censored:ing line again!!! Think we should start off a list (we could be here for a while) I'll go first... 1) Brian Talbot... and that concludes the list that should take us a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petelatics Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 This from the man who was going to take Oldham to Failsworth? Koukash didn't deny what Corney said so I think it's fair to assume it's true. And as for Corney trying to move us down Broadway, he got that wrong not being from this area and not understanding how difficult it would have been for the fans. I remember a few coming on here saying that they'd have to catch a bus from Royton. From Royton! In the rest of the world people are used to using public transport but it was obviously a step too far for some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Koukash didn't deny what Corney said so I think it's fair to assume it's true. And as for Corney trying to move us down Broadway, he got that wrong not being from this area and not understanding how difficult it would have been for the fans. I remember a few coming on here saying that they'd have to catch a bus from Royton. From Royton! In the rest of the world people are used to using public transport but it was obviously a step too far for some! I thought Koukash said, unequivocally, that he had no intention of moving Latics away from Oldham. Not that it matters now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petelatics Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I thought Koukash said, unequivocally, that he had no intention of moving Latics away from Oldham. Not that it matters now. Can't remember what we were talking about! Up the blues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 and that concludes the list that should take us a while Maybe people should stop using the line "They've admitted that they have made mistakes" in that case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I thought Koukash said, unequivocally, that he had no intention of moving Latics away from Oldham. Not that it matters now. he did in the same way the 3A did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Corney's stuck by us??? I think you'll find he would have fecked off long ago if the price was right. It's not about Corney sticking by us by being some kind of uber loyal fan far from it. he's sitting on his bosses assets. I appreciate they came here and got us out of the :censored:, for that i will be eternally grateful. What i'm not happy about is what's been happening since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworthlatic Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Corney's stuck by us??? I think you'll find he would have fecked off long ago if the price was right. It's not about Corney sticking by us by being some kind of uber loyal fan far from it. he's sitting on his bosses assets. I appreciate they came here and got us out of the :censored:, for that i will be eternally grateful. What i'm not happy about is what's been happening since. Of course he would have if the price was right but sticking by us means that he won't just sell to anybody, he wants to sell to a person or consortium that want to run a football club not to just anybody like bloody koukash! He isn't a fan but he has stayed when the others pulled out and he got Oldham out of the :censored: like you said so I think that in itself deserves a lot of credit. We are not operating to a loss, nor a massive profit so it's better than many of the 48 clubs in the bottom two tiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Does Corney still have an open door to showing the balance sheet? I know the general consensus is that we don't turn a profit and if anything we make a loss. However the question would be is that due to us paying back on TTA investments and would we be turning even small profits if we weren't. There is no way in hell I can believe that Losses have been funded year on year for god knows how long and we are managing to find the money to build a new stand on top of this, just doesn't stack up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Does Corney still have an open door to showing the balance sheet? I know the general consensus is that we don't turn a profit and if anything we make a loss. However the question would be is that due to us paying back on TTA investments and would we be turning even small profits if we weren't. There is no way in hell I can believe that Losses have been funded year on year for god knows how long and we are managing to find the money to build a new stand on top of this, just doesn't stack up. if he does what are you going to do with the information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Feel enlightened... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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