WIZZO83 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Well the tide seems to be turning against our manager, football has gone down hill, our team is full of loan players who have a habit of not fighting in a relegation scrap and we are well and truly sucked into another relegation scrap. The fans are talking with their feet, one of the lowest crowds at BP (excluding away fans) I have seen for a league game. LJ has a contract for another 2 years and I very much doubt the club can afford to sack him even if they wanted to. When will fans start to look at the Board? SC gave the club a lifeline 10 years ago, for me that is well well in the past, this club is dying a slow death, the stand will not save this club alone, our club has gone from 6-7k crowd to 3-3.5k in 4 or 5 years. SC has to get his cheque book out and sign a proven striker, if not we go down. a Luke Beckett, Matt Derbyshire type or we are done and I fear never to return. I want SC to answer the fans questions with regards to the position of the club, the money, the ownership of the new stand and his plans for the club. Our club has been up for sale for 6 years and no takers, this is due to what he is asking for. Rotherham are no bigger than we are and look at them! This man is slowly ripping the soul out of OAFC and the quicker everyone realises it the better CORNEY OUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 OAFC ave height 179.0cm, Rotherham 183.3cm. OAFC ave age 24.5 years, Rotherham 28. Just a couple of really odd stats that are included at the bottom of a page on a phone app I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I think everyone knows my views on Corney but Johnson is far from blameless. The guy has shown very little sign that he's cut out for management. And he has four years left on his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsmarra Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The management of the squad ,players In and out,during the season is illogical from a playing point of view.it strikes me that other financial pressures are lurking in the background, is it the stand and/or the investor loan repayments are taking priority? We moan about LJ ,Simon,Barry etc. but We have a Chief Executive who never puts his head above the parapet. What is his role in all this? Is he really just the Club Accountant and Chief Executive in name ?what responsibility does he have for what goes on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) I think everyone knows my views on Corney but Johnson is far from blameless. The guy has shown very little sign that he's cut out for management. And he has four years left on his contract. We're not sure what clauses are in the contract. I can't believe we'd extend the length of Johnson's contract without a relegation get-out clause, or something that perhaps wasn't in there in the original contract, to balance something in the club's favour if it all goes pear-shaped. Getting rid of Johnson would be futile anyway as we'd just appoint another cheap option of the same mould. Edited March 12, 2014 by JoeP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Well the tide seems to be turning against our manager, football has gone down hill, our team is full of loan players who have a habit of not fighting in a relegation scrap and we are well and truly sucked into another relegation scrap. The fans are talking with their feet, one of the lowest crowds at BP (excluding away fans) I have seen for a league game. LJ has a contract for another 2 years and I very much doubt the club can afford to sack him even if they wanted to. When will fans start to look at the Board? SC gave the club a lifeline 10 years ago, for me that is well well in the past, this club is dying a slow death, the stand will not save this club alone, our club has gone from 6-7k crowd to 3-3.5k in 4 or 5 years. SC has to get his cheque book out and sign a proven striker, if not we go down. a Luke Beckett, Matt Derbyshire type or we are done and I fear never to return. I want SC to answer the fans questions with regards to the position of the club, the money, the ownership of the new stand and his plans for the club. Our club has been up for sale for 6 years and no takers, this is due to what he is asking for. Rotherham are no bigger than we are and look at them! This man is slowly ripping the soul out of OAFC and the quicker everyone realises it the better CORNEY OUT How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworthlatic Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 So, Corney goes then what? Who would want to buy Oldham. Without Corney Oldham Athletic wouldn't exist anymore and at least he has stuck around, seeing his money go to waste effectively but certainly not sold Oldham Athletic down the river and nor would I want him to! Bring Koukash in people say? Yeah because he has a clear interest in investing in Oldham Athletic and making Oldham a fantastic team with a bit of cash, NEVER was that his plan and Corney saw that and told him to do one. Be very careful what you wish for because if Corney goes then we are in deep :censored:, so just keep that in mind. This isn't me saying that I think Corney is fantastic because I don't but i respect him for sticking about and keeping the club going and also coming in the first place after the Moore fiasco so I don't really know what you expect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ33 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Whilst im not defending corney - i think he has made some poor choices this year. Corney out is a weird statement, where is this great queue of people waiting to take over a football club which is hemorrhaging money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 More worryingly, the cycle replicated every year at the end of the season has happened mid-season this time. We lost Rooney and never replaced him. We've lost Tarky, Lanzoni, Mills, Baxter too and that's just during the season. There's no coincidence we looked a force at the beginning of the season and we're :censored:e now. It's the reason that we're now dog:censored:. 5 of our best players have left in the middle of the campaign and 4 of them replaced by useless dross and the other, Baxter, was irreplaceable at our level. I don't think LJ's philosophy has changed, his team has changed under his nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Whilst im not defending corney - i think he has made some poor choices this year. Corney out is a weird statement, where is this great queue of people waiting to take over a football club which is hemorrhaging money. I'm not saying Corney out, just asking what he thinks of the current situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ33 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 WIZZO83 did earlier in the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Our board is an accountant, an ex-copper from the 80s, an estate agent and a bloke who made good money from phones. Might beat a bloke who made money from coaches who was appointed by a brewery and a lawyer, plus at times a builder, but the sad indictment is it might not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) So, Corney goes then what? Who would want to buy Oldham. Without Corney Oldham Athletic wouldn't exist anymore and at least he has stuck around, seeing his money go to waste effectively but certainly not sold Oldham Athletic down the river and nor would I want him to! Bring Koukash in people say? Yeah because he has a clear interest in investing in Oldham Athletic and making Oldham a fantastic team with a bit of cash, NEVER was that his plan and Corney saw that and told him to do one. Be very careful what you wish for because if Corney goes then we are in deep :censored:, so just keep that in mind. This isn't me saying that I think Corney is fantastic because I don't but i respect him for sticking about and keeping the club going and also coming in the first place after the Moore fiasco so I don't really know what you expect We're in deep :censored: if he goes - but I think we're also in deep :censored: if he stays! Constantly doing things on the cheap and hoping for the best are just going to mean a slow death, instead of a quick one. It seems he's hoping luck instead of good management will move us forward and, based on the last ten years, I can't see that happening. I hope I'm wrong and hope that what he's trying to do here comes off, but it needs to happen sooner rather than later, before the damage is beyond repair. Edited March 12, 2014 by JoeP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) More worryingly, the cycle replicated every year at the end of the season has happened mid-season this time. We lost Rooney and never replaced him. We've lost Tarky, Lanzoni, Mills, Baxter too and that's just during the season. There's no coincidence we looked a force at the beginning of the season and we're :censored:e now. It's the reason that we're now dog:censored:. 5 of our best players have left in the middle of the campaign and 4 of them replaced by useless dross and the other, Baxter, was irreplaceable at our level. I don't think LJ's philosophy has changed, his team has changed under his nose. I don't think LJ's philosophy has changed, his team has changed under his nose? Not sure I agree with this - Johnson has gone backwards in his approach to playing style - gone are the two wingers, fullbacks simply don't overlap, he brings every man back at corners, he constantly chops and changes his team, positions and tactics. Players lack confidence and that is reflected in how poorly we are playing at the moment. And apart from Harkins, the majority of the new guys are simply not up to it. His philosophy has changed - and that is why we are in our current predicament. Edited March 12, 2014 by TheBigDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 LJs transfer dealings have been dire. He has totally diluted the squad from a mid table team to one that looks like a conference team. some signings were okay but most of them have left. This is a piss poor team in terms of quality. this is where runners and cloggers will get you. :censored:E. only 2500 home fans. Going down. LJ has shown sweet FA. he has the :censored:ing nerve to tell fans what they shouldn't sing and that they should sing new songs. Really. I don't pay my admission for 40 years to be patronized by a failing manager. :censored: off and give the few fans left something to sing about. Really pissed off now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIZZO83 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 I say this every time when a OAFC fan says without Corney there will be no club.....BULL:censored: When was the last club shut the doors and never exist again!!! Someone will always come in for a club, How much does Simon Corney put in every year?? He hasnt for the past 2 or 3 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Be very careful what you wish for because if Corney goes then we are in deep :censored:, so just keep that in mind. We are in deep :censored: anyhow. Corney and his chums keep selling everyone for peanuts and banking any cup cash we have made. You only have to look at how much we got for Tarky to realise what they are doing to this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) I say this every time when a OAFC fan says without Corney there will be no club.....BULL:censored: When was the last club shut the doors and never exist again!!! Someone will always come in for a club, How much does Simon Corney put in every year?? He hasnt for the past 2 or 3 seasons. But nobody can "sack" him. How exactly do you propose to get him "out"? Edited March 12, 2014 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I bet corney takes out more than he puts in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworthlatic Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I bet corney takes out more than he puts in. And so he has a right to! We as football fans may not like it but he's a business man for god's sake! The only way to get him out is to buy him out, anybody got enough money? Very probably not so we are struggling. If he pulls out and decides enough is enough we won't have a club to watch, end of! At least there is still an Oldham Athletic and if he hadn't have come in then we'd have gone bust so why all turn on him now? Yes corney doesn't spend, but bloody hell, yeovil work with :censored: all as their budget and they're in the championship Live in the real world people, football is a business nothing else so he's going to do anything possible to make a profit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworthlatic Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I say this every time when a OAFC fan says without Corney there will be no club.....BULL:censored: When was the last club shut the doors and never exist again!!! Someone will always come in for a club, How much does Simon Corney put in every year?? He hasnt for the past 2 or 3 seasons. How is it bull:censored:? If somebody wants to invest in Oldham Athletic then why haven't they bought him out in the last 10 years? He has put in enough to keep Oldham Athletic running year upon year, very little for transfers but even if we spent how many places further up would we be? Pointless spending money we don't have that's when clubs get in trouble, Rushden, Aldershot, Luton spring to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I say this every time when a OAFC fan says without Corney there will be no club.....BULL:censored: When was the last club shut the doors and never exist again!!! Someone will always come in for a club, How much does Simon Corney put in every year?? He hasnt for the past 2 or 3 seasons. In any meaningful way try Scarborough, Chester, Halifax, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 when was the last time we 'spent' on the playing front ? dont think we want miracles just a modicum of hope will suffice. What will happen in league two cot the cloth again and struggle ? thought this guy was proclaimed as the saviour ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'd love to know what money SC actually has and what he actually puts into the club. Blitz was supposedly the money man in the takeover. I think the cup cash in particular has saved us from the drop the last couple of seasons. However, it might not be enough this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworthlatic Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 when was the last time we 'spent' on the playing front ? dont think we want miracles just a modicum of hope will suffice. What will happen in league two cot the cloth again and struggle ? thought this guy was proclaimed as the saviour ??? He saved us 10 years ago and I would love to see corney bought out but only by somebody who actually has an interest in the football and not just a project with other ideas such as koukash. We signed turner for 20k ;) does that count haha? Other than that we don't spend but how many clubs like us do? Don't overspend is the key to success, yeovil last season didn't pay for a single one of their players and went up, can be done with the right players sadly we don't have enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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