slowcoach Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Just received an email from Mark Moisley about crowdfunding. I have never heard of it. Does it work? Anyway i filled the survey in , see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 They really pick their moments sometimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Really poor timing from the club as it could be a really good idea for Latics, but with all the I'll feeling at the moment I can't see them receiving much of a response from this. I've filled it in though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 What were people saying about the disconnect between fans and the club? Mindboggling, Latics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Interesting. Basically crowdfunding is when you ask people to "invest". It's popular for tech items because you basically buy the first models but they get the money up front and can gauge demand. you'd get benefits dpeending on levels of investment. but it has a wider range, people even use it to get domations for a holiday or something! It allows for smaller investment without a shareholding. In essence, myFootball at Ebbsfleet was a form of crowdfunding, but not using the Crowdfunging.org platform. That is basiccaly poeple searching for things to invest it. In our case,as a guess, it might work something like this: Invest £50 and we will put your name in the programme as spsonser for Rhys Murphy's socks Invest £100 and we will put your name by Rhys Purphy's shirt in the programme. Invest £750 and we will give you a golden brick in the new stand. Invest £5,000 and we will give you a free season ticket and you can sit ont he bench for a game. Obviosuly those are random and guessed. EDIT £6m and you get to choose your own manager..... Edited January 6, 2016 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 ...or crudely it is an on line bucket collection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 What does the email say ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Isn't this just another version of playershare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_blue Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Isn't this just another version of playershare? Of sorts but for a different project. Some options they asked if you'd like to contribute to where... Youth investment Scoreboard Statue of legend Big screen in ground Disabled Facilities And some more options.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Really poor timing from the club as it could be a really good idea for Latics, but with all the I'll feeling at the moment I can't see them receiving much of a response from this. I've filled it in though. I disagree. Things are :censored: but it appears somebody might be "thinking outside the box" (I :censored:ing hate that phrase). I've said before we should try and do an Oviedo before somebody else does... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_blue Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 What does the email say ? Dear Supporter, We have commissioned a survey of supporters related to crowd-funding, and have attached a link below. The survey is self explanatory, very short and will take only two minutes to complete, but will provide us with very useful information moving forward. We would be grateful if you are therefore able to participate. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1ZzNC1yf03b04YcXYJuO_crrxSufhNEivjN3G-H_9B0o/viewform?usp=send_form Many thanks Mark Moisley Commercial Director For and on behalf of Oldham Athletic (2004) AFC Limited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 What does the email say ? Dear Supporter, We have commissioned a survey of supporters related to crowd-funding, and have attached a link below. The survey is self explanatory, very short and will take only two minutes to complete, but will provide us with very useful information moving forward. We would be grateful if you are therefore able to participate. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1ZzNC1yf03b04YcXYJuO_crrxSufhNEivjN3G-H_9B0o/viewform?usp=send_form Many thanks Mark Moisley Commercial Director For and on behalf of Oldham Athletic (2004) AFC Limited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowcoach Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 Yeah I saw it as a begging bowl. Reminded me of the time after Moore to which I freely contributed. The way the club is run now, it would have to something bloody good before I contributed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I'm not totally against this idea, with certain reservations. I put disabled facilities and fanzone but I'm really not sure what's in Corney's mind. Basically, what with the timing and everything, they might as well have put "Manager" as one of the options. I don't know which manager pissed Corney off or why but he's obviously thought to himself, "I'm not paying those :censored: so much as a brass farthing ever again." It's more sophisticated than a bucket shake but I'd rather the Trust rather than the club ran any crowdfunding venture - for the sake of the club's reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) I'm not totally against this idea, with certain reservations. I put disabled facilities and fanzone but I'm really not sure what's in Corney's mind. Basically, what with the timing and everything, they might as well have put "Manager" as one of the options. I don't know which manager pissed Corney off or why but he's obviously thought to himself, "I'm not paying those :censored: so much as a brass farthing ever again." It's more sophisticated than a bucket shake but I'd rather the Trust rather than the club ran any crowdfunding venture - for the sake of the club's reputation. It's interesting that Youth Academy is on there, I'd asked Underdog to ask if PLayershare could look at funding Youth Players to make the grade if there was a pressure on numbers. I'd agree the Trust supporting the Youth Academy through playershare or a sperate playershare I'd agree with. : Edited January 6, 2016 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohairdontcare Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Crowdfunding isn't what we need right now - it won't work for us (a) because the crowd is dwindling by the day, ( going to a match is already an expensive enough pasttime, and © any extra cash to be bled out of supporters is already going to playershare. I think it's a non-runner before it goes any further than this survey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Interesting. Basically crowdfunding is when you ask people to "invest". It's popular for tech items because you basically buy the first models but they get the money up front and can gauge demand. you'd get benefits dpeending on levels of investment. but it has a wider range, people even use it to get domations for a holiday or something! It allows for smaller investment without a shareholding. In essence, myFootball at Ebbsfleet was a form of crowdfunding, but not using the Crowdfunging.org platform. That is basiccaly poeple searching for things to invest it. In our case,as a guess, it might work something like this: Invest £50 and we will put your name in the programme as spsonser for Rhys Murphy's socks Invest £100 and we will put your name by Rhys Purphy's shirt in the programme. Invest £750 and we will give you a golden brick in the new stand. Invest £5,000 and we will give you a free season ticket and you can sit ont he bench for a game. Obviosuly those are random and guessed. EDIT £6m and you get to choose your own manager..... How much do the directors invest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Never heard of it but filled it in to show interest. My first thought was 'is this a potential nice little earner for some third party '? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Of sorts but for a different project. Some options they asked if you'd like to contribute to where... Youth investment Scoreboard Statue of legend Big screen in ground Disabled Facilities And some more options.... If a crowdfunding campaign was run for your club, what should the money be spent on? * Stadium improvement (e.g. new stand, pitch, roof etc.) Training Facilities Youth Academy Fan Zone Disabled Access Improvements to player dressing rooms / facilities Big screen in stadium Scoreboard Statue of club legend Wi-Fi in stadium Other: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I disagree. Things are :censored: but it appears somebody might be "thinking outside the box" (I :censored:ing hate that phrase). I've said before we should try and do an Oviedo before somebody else does... There's that as well. Now I think about it, I could get behind crowdfunding. I definitely don't want the moment's cynicism to strangle a good medium-term idea. What I was thinking the other day at Boundary Park is that lower league football is a :censored: simulacra of premier league football. You go along, you pay a bloody fortune at the turnstile. You sit in your seat. You have an opportunity to buy a can of Guinness for (London prices) at half time. You go back to your seat. There's no real commitment to the club or the team. You're just doing a series of transactions. It's different for ST holders. That's an investment. Crowdfunding that deepens the commitment of your casual fan without costing a fortune might be a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Never heard of it but filled it in to show interest. My first thought was 'is this a potential nice little earner for some third party '? No It's really not. That's the point, the money goes direct, that is the concept. Of course the sites hosting wil make a bit but it is buttons, it relies on the numbers. Anyway, as can be sseen by the question which you have heard of, we have not decided any yet, if it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 How much do the directors invest? That varies every single time. I reckon you could get on the Board for tens of thousands. The Trust Director invested a lot more, but that is a whole other thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I disagree. Things are :censored: but it appears somebody might be "thinking outside the box" (I :censored:ing hate that phrase). I've said before we should try and do an Oviedo before somebody else does... True, and intersesting. How is Oviedo, which I admire, different from MyFootball at Gravesend and Northfleet though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) True, and intersesting. How is Oviedo, which I admire, different from MyFootball at Gravesend and Northfleet though? I don't know the ins and outs of how they did it so much more successfully but it appears that they did.... I suppose the Oviedo angle was for football fans around the world to help save a great old club from going bust (I hesitate to post this in case it gives someone an idea) Edited January 6, 2016 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I've filled it in but I really didn't like the options for where the money could be spent. Disabled facilities!?!?! WTF? This is something that a responsible club should be providing anyway, not holding a begging bowl out to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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