Guest nonaenever Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) Hi - please read the thread "Protest Group" - particularly my posting at 8pm today (13 Nov). I`m quite happy to lead on this (under the banner of OAFC - Oldham Athletic Fans' Charter) IF there is enough support. I know you can't please all the people all of the time but I promise to do my utmost to represent real fans' views in a positive and constructive manner and engage with the club and media to bring about the positive change we all want. If you are supportive of this new initiative please just log in and click on the green arrow to give the thumbs up. If you're not then it's the red one. I`ve tried to set this up as a poll but never having done it before don't know if it's worked! I know we have the Trust etc. and I`m not belittling what they do at all BUT many of the silent majority have nearly had enough with the current state of affairs - it's time for change. I'll not comment again but will log in next Saturday to gauge reaction. Thank you. Edited November 13, 2016 by nonaenever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nonaenever Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 OAFC would stand for "Oldham Athletic Fans' Charter" - not Forum as I`ve put in the poll - apologies I was reading the forum as I typed ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 What is the positive change? If you intend to bring about investment please advise how. If not, what change do you intend to bring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 if you are really looking to do this and put your head over the parapet then good luck to you. Not about to put my name behind a message board nom de plume though; I want to know who, how etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Didn't take Mcduff long to start piping up are you Corneys bitch or something? Why the :censored: do you think anyone has to answer to you, if you don't agree with it jog on and keep kissing Corneys arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 What is the positive change? If you intend to bring about investment please advise how. If not, what change do you intend to bring? Why don't you ask Corney what positive change he's hoping to effect? So far he's halved the crowds. Not very positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Why don't you ask Corney what positive change he's hoping to effect? So far he's halved the crowds. Not very positive. People talking about positive change yet when I ask what change nobody can tell me how or what? This was my issue last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Didn't take Mcduff long to start piping up are you Corneys bitch or something? Why the :censored: do you think anyone has to answer to you, if you don't agree with it jog on and keep kissing Corneys arse. I suppose someone might ask why the :censored: do you think Corney should answer to anybody on here. He doesn't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) What positive change are we looking for? Corney gone? Who is the new invester? The other group had no direction, what's different with this one? Edited November 13, 2016 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor evil Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I can't possibly answer this as there's no detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 One thing that does need clearing up for everybody. IMO people definitely need to know this for complete peace of mind before they vote? Will there be banners & will the slogans actually make sense this time? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I suppose someone might ask why the :censored: do you think Corney should answer to anybody on here. He doesn't... If he wants people to hand over cash they can refuse if he won't answer. It's a choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nonaenever Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I can't possibly answer this as there's no detail. As I`ve stated, let's see what the general sentiment is from the voting first. If it's looking positive, I`ll provide the detail including my credentials and we can take it (or not) from there. There is no ulterior motive or personal ego at play here - I just can't stand by and watch my club continue to decline any longer without at least saying I tried to do something positive to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 As I`ve stated, let's see what the general sentiment is from the voting first. If it's looking positive, I`ll provide the detail including my credentials and we can take it (or not) from there. There is no ulterior motive or personal ego at play here - I just can't stand by and watch my club continue to decline any longer without at least saying I tried to do something positive to help. Egg and chicken. How can you expect support without details and credentials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 What is the positive change? If you intend to bring about investment please advise how. If not, what change do you intend to bring? Perhaps the OP started the poll as an initial test and as a follow up, might want to create a meeting to discuss a few ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 If he wants people to hand over cash they can refuse if he won't answer. It's a choice. I really at the point where I think it doesn't make a bit of difference. He has answered questions previously and those who want to pay still do and those that don't want to don't. You also have a large majority that don't believe him when they don't hear exactly what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 People talking about positive change yet when I ask what change nobody can tell me how or what? This was my issue last time. People can express discontent even if they don't have solutions. Maybe the business owner should take some responsibility for connecting with the fans to explain what their plans are. Your stance is like saying you can't disagree with the state of a political party if you don't form one yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Perhaps the OP started the poll as an initial test and as a follow up, might want to create a meeting to discuss a few ideas? This was done pre season. I'd like to know what the difference will be. For example, does the OP have any preliminary ideas on what changes they want? I think it's a fair ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) This was done pre season. I'd like to know what the difference will be. For example, does the OP have any preliminary ideas on what changes they want? I think it's a fair askI am thinking like this, I'm note sure a poll is needed as 90%+ plus know we need change. The results are going to be yes but what is the different this time? We had a protest group, we have a trust, we've had 'fans' on the board. What's the difference and what's the aim? Edited November 13, 2016 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 This was done pre season. I'd like to know what the difference will be. For example, does the OP have any preliminary ideas on what changes they want? I think it's a fair ask It's fair to ask, however I wouldn't expect too much at this point in time. Give it a chance before writing it off. Word of advice to the OP, manage expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nonaenever Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 It's fair to ask, however I wouldn't expect too much at this point in time. Give it a chance before writing it off. Word of advice to the OP, manage expectations. Thank you and noted. At this stage, I just want to gauge whether there is any appetite really. If there is, I will then put some meat on the bones. I also see it as very much an inclusive process, where all ideas can be thrown into the pot - and I`ll just manage the process etc. IF it gains momentum, I`ll probably arrange a public meeting pretty early on - thanks again - I`m working in London first half of this week so won't be logging on again properly until weekend. I`ll check the poll then and take it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I've said it on the other thread. Why not engage the Trust first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry1203 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I think a lot of blame can be put on the current owners but for me, the questions should be asked of the fans that are staying away and the general population of Oldham. Do they really want a club in the town anymore? When it's gone, it's gone. The fans that are left don't get behind the team from the first whistle. We're even getting away fans now taking the piss out of our support. If the so called fans continue to stay away, then for me they are as much to blame as the owners. I get it's boring football at the moment but playing in front of our home crowd wouldn't inspire or motivate me to give 110% either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 This was done pre season. I'd like to know what the difference will be. For example, does the OP have any preliminary ideas on what changes they want? I think it's a fair ask I think it's fair to say we all want change. We don't know what the difference will be as yet and it's for all of us to decide. Just answer yes or no for now and let's see if there's enough initial support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I think it's fair to say we all want change. We don't know what the difference will be as yet and it's for all of us to decide. Just answer yes or no for now and let's see if there's enough initial support. I've put no for now. Of course I want the team to be doing better. Of course I want us to be challenging at the top end of the table. I just can't see any way this will happen without some major investment. I can't see how a protest will get this investment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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