Oldham_till_i_die Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Not the signing we need. from watching him in pre season he looks to be a fringe player than plays Central midfield. Plenty experience at this level though tbf. He’ll be a rotational midfielder I’m guessing. Preferred starters being Gardner, Sheron and Maynard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-latic Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Anyone know if he’s the bloke who played first or second half against Wigan? (Hope he played first half - ran the show) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcforever Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 He had a decent 1st half against Wigan looked a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Played well second half at Fylde after not impressing me too much at Radcliffe, played well first half against Wigan though and he is a useful addition, no nonsense and didn't mind the physical challenge shall we say, could well start at Torquay if Shez goes defensive. Still need the quality attacking players in though and the quicker we get those players in the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwhite Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Will start on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldham_till_i_die Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, Andy-latic said: Anyone know if he’s the bloke who played first or second half against Wigan? (Hope he played first half - ran the show) Yes he’s the first half lad, the trial isn’t from the second half was never to be seen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 We've been absolutely weak as piss for years in Central midfield so I'm happy to have some depth there. Plenty of experience at this level too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St92 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Wasn't it him who took the ridiculous quick FK against Fylde, gave it straight to them and ended up getting Hogan sent off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldham_till_i_die Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Oldham_till_i_die said: Yes he’s the first half lad, the trialist from the second half was never to be seen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 I worry that, if we're going to do anything this season, any signing from hereon in needs to be our new best player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: I worry that, if we're going to do anything this season, any signing from hereon in needs to be our new best player. Agreed. We've enough workmanlike squad players we need to sign flair players and matchwinners from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bobledgersheart said: Agreed. We've enough workmanlike squad players we need to sign flair players and matchwinners from now on. 2 goalscorers for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Terry Cooper's grandson!!! FFS. I feel really old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: 2 goalscorers for me We might already have them.. It's not like last season when we literally had no strikers for periods. Fondop, Porter, Luamba and Hope (to some extent..) might have goals in them at this level.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Preferred the attacking midfielder Haughton from Fylde. but I guess he's out of our range with other priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 27 minutes ago, JoeP said: We might already have them.. It's not like last season when we literally had no strikers for periods. Fondop, Porter, Luamba and Hope (to some extent..) might have goals in them at this level.. All dollops. No pace or movement with goals. They offer us other things, but I also reckon we need some pace and mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, bigfatjoe1 said: All dollops. No pace or movement with goals. They offer us other things, but I also reckon we need some pace and mobility. Luamba's nippy isn't he? I'd rather have pace out wide to get the balls in for the targetmen/"dollops". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 hours ago, bigfatjoe1 said: Terry Cooper's grandson!!! FFS. I feel really old. Indeed. I remember watching (the late) Terry Cooper playing for Leeds and England. A quality left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 11 hours ago, LaticMark said: Indeed. I remember watching (the late) Terry Cooper playing for Leeds and England. A quality left back. Me too, one of the first wingbacks to make a mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 12 hours ago, JoeP said: Luamba's nippy isn't he? I'd rather have pace out wide to get the balls in for the targetmen/"dollops". But only Porter is a goalscorer, but he lacks pace. I'm not sure what Luamba is at the moment, which is fine given his age. Hope is not very mobile, his first touch is poor and his goalscoring ability is limited. He works hard, but he is a dollop. Fondop is also a very large dollop with a poor scoring record. Powerful, but not really someone who is going to bag a few goals. If we add a couple of players with pace, including one with a goalscoring capability, then we would really have enough ammunition to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Is it only me that is concerned when I see the phrase 'should be good enough for this level' about our players? I am not convinced that this level is as low as some of us may believe, especially clubs in the top half. Without researching it,it feels like National League promoted teams have stayed in League 2 without too much fuss in the past few years. I hope I'm wrong but I think we may be in for a rude awakening if we thing the standard is much lower than League 2. I have done some research now for the past 10 years - 2011/12-2020/21 Of the 19 teams relegated from L2 8 have got promotion back. Only 2 at the first time of asking- Bristol R and Cheltenham. Of the 20 teams promoted from the NL 4 have been relegated subsequently. 9 are still in L2, 6 in L1 and Luton in the Championship. The sides that have come up have done well. Those relegated might have done a bit better than I imagined but 2 out of 19 coming back first time is not encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, astottie said: Is it only me that is concerned when I see the phrase 'should be good enough for this level' about our players? I am not convinced that this level is as low as some of us may believe, especially clubs in the top half. Without researching it,it feels like National League promoted teams have stayed in League 2 without too much fuss in the past few years. I hope I'm wrong but I think we may be in for a rude awakening if we thing the standard is much lower than League 2. Apart from a few who can afford to recruit the better players, the standard of player across the rest of the teams will be generally the same. The phrase ‘good enough for this level’ is used when referring to the standard level of player. What Latics currently lack are the ‘better players’ who will make the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, astottie said: Is it only me that is concerned when I see the phrase 'should be good enough for this level' about our players? I am not convinced that this level is as low as some of us may believe, especially clubs in the top half. Without researching it,it feels like National League promoted teams have stayed in League 2 without too much fuss in the past few years. I hope I'm wrong but I think we may be in for a rude awakening if we thing the standard is much lower than League 2. I've seen a fair few NL games over the last 3 years and I remain convinced it's massively inferior to League Two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: I've seen a fair few NL games over the last 3 years and I remain convinced it's massively inferior to League Two... Not the bottom half of division 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 2 hours ago, BP1960 said: Not the bottom half of division 2. Taking Wrexham out of it who have a League 1 budget at least the rest are much of a muchness. Having a decent manager is probably more important at this level, I really hope we get a different Shez to the one Chesterfield had at this level where he won about 17 out of 52 games (30.6%), they actually lost 22 games. In fact his record since his last stint with us of 57 wins in 178 games (31.2%) makes pretty grim reading so let's hope we get off to a flyer this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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