Clifford Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: He’s a decent footballer at this level when fully fit but, and he would probably admit it, is now past his best. He's 27 i think. Unsworth mentions fitness and even pre season for next season as being key. If he sticks to slimming world and the physios get him on track he'll play when 100%. Dan Gardner is a good player for this level but hasn't been fit at all since he signed. If you're not fit you're going to be off it whoever you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbaltipie Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I think there is a miss-conception that the lower down the leagues you go the Maghey type centre halves become more effective, but for me that depends on the opposition. Judging by the games I have seen, not too many play hoofball, a lot of them like to get the ball down play in from the flanks with low balls in and across the box, which has were we have conceded the majority of our goals from. Stop the threat out wide and teams will run out of ideas and resort to riskier passes where can turn the possession over quicker. As soon as we brought on Couto on the County home game and double up on Nemane (little Ruel Fox) he simply passed the ball back and their full back launched it up in the air where Norman claimed. No doubt the lad has experience, but I'm not sure that alone is worthy of a place in the side, and if his backs dodgy then a less than mobile player then becomes more of a liability. At Dorking we started to press from the front which was great to see, but as may have eluded to on here, midfield is the problem, opposition teams have way too much time to pick out their wide men as they come under no real pressure form our midfield (bar Sheron's recent move to midfield), get that sorted and we will be in business. Best form of defence is attack, all over the pitch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Hope had one good game all season, away at York. He was his usual headless chicken self in every other game we played... 3 in 7 from wide left / up top before he was battered in the car park. Edited January 12, 2023 by Clifford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, Clifford said: 3 in 7 from wide left / up top before he was battered in the car park. Allegedly... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 56 minutes ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said: Thought he had a decent match at home to Aldershot, popped up with a great finish in the last minute. I'm struggling after that. That was the worst of the lot! He was Aldershot's best player and should have been hauled off 5 minutes before his goal when he shanked the cross into the Rochdale Road End whilst under no pressure. Lucky he wasn't hauled off, mind... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 16 hours ago, disjointed said: If you think that Pidge is a cunt I hate to think what the rest of the squad rates in your eyes. He was one of the few who gave a shit and gave his all. He made mistakes but without him we would have had our fate sealed a lot sooner. Perhaps Warnock was right. Yes without Pidge we'd have been relegated a lot sooner than we were. However as Captain, his sending off and signing for relegation rivals undid all the goodwill he had earned by being respectable in a crap side. He's not a Charlie Uniform November Tango, but he doesn't get off scot-free. Why we didn't appeal his sending off I don't know. Actually scratch that I do know, it was typical Stench false economics, saving money by not spending it only for it to probably cost more money in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I certainly wouldn't accuse him of deliberately being sent off. But him uncharacteristically getting sent off, and ultimately missing 3 games which saw us relegated, and then signing for the club that stayed up at our expense, certainly sent some alarm bells ringing for me... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: I certainly wouldn't accuse him of deliberately being sent off. But him uncharacteristically getting sent off, and ultimately missing 3 games which saw us relegated, and then signing for the club that stayed up at our expense, certainly sent some alarm bells ringing for me... And he was practically assisting for the opposition until around November/December. A few months of fist pumping, playing well and doing his job and people make out like he was Vidic last season. Proper plodding binman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Clifford said: And he was practically assisting for the opposition until around November/December. A few months of fist pumping, playing well and doing his job and people make out like he was Vidic last season. Proper plodding binman. How did you see him until November/December? Thought you were boycotting, Scabby... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: How did you see him until November/December? Thought you were boycotting, Scabby... Same way I watched Dorking..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Clifford said: Same way I watched Dorking..... Didn't realise we could stream last seasons games via the National League website... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Clifford said: And he was practically assisting for the opposition until around November/December. A few months of fist pumping, playing well and doing his job and people make out like he was Vidic last season. Proper plodding binman. Is there a player you actually like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: Is there a player you actually like? Not many from the side who relegated us to the non league old bean. Especially those who fucked off pronto. Edited January 12, 2023 by Clifford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Clifford said: He's 27 i think. Unsworth mentions fitness and even pre season for next season as being key. If he sticks to slimming world and the physios get him on track he'll play when 100%. He has played over 200 games but his career to date has gone from the playing Championship football down through the leagues to where he is now. I suppose that was what I meant with the comment ‘he’s probably past his best’’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBigDog said: He has played over 200 games but his career to date has gone from the playing Championship football down through the leagues to where he is now. I suppose that was what I meant with the comment ‘he’s probably past his best’’ Just don't think he's fit enough. That may be down to him. Hopefully Clarke can have an influence on him. Talent is clearly there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Clifford said: Not many from the side who relegated us to the non league old bean. But have spent the best part of the day defending McGahey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 6 hours ago, rudemedic said: Yes without Pidge we'd have been relegated a lot sooner than we were. That's a preposterous take. The opposition had a goal or two's start for more than half the season due to his constantly kicking/heading the ball to them and his constant calamitous defending. The points he directly, single handedly cost us were the difference between staying up and going down - assuming his replacement wouldn't have been as bad, which he wouldn't have been as that's impossible. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 38 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: That's a preposterous take. The opposition had a goal or two's start for more than half the season due to his constantly kicking/heading the ball to them and his constant calamitous defending. The points he directly, single handedly cost us were the difference between staying up and going down - assuming his replacement wouldn't have been as bad, which he wouldn't have been as that's impossible. Spot on. He was heroic for a spell but the damage was done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKing521 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 hours ago, HarryBosch said: That's a preposterous take. The opposition had a goal or two's start for more than half the season due to his constantly kicking/heading the ball to them and his constant calamitous defending. The points he directly, single handedly cost us were the difference between staying up and going down - assuming his replacement wouldn't have been as bad, which he wouldn't have been as that's impossible. Pidge can fuck off. If not for the suspicious Northampton sending off then definitely the flying tackle in the 95th minute to give Bradford 3 points in August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 If Pidge was "shit", all other defenders from last season must be off the scale.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, JoeP said: If Pidge was "shit", all other defenders from last season must be off the scale.. Well, they were, weren't they? That's why we got relegated. I still shudder at that City prick Keith Curle playing Alan Sheehan 10 yards behind every other defender in some games last season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Well, they were, weren't they? That's why we got relegated. I still shudder at that City prick Keith Curle playing Alan Sheehan 10 yards behind every other defender in some games last season... Shit defenders certainly makes the list of reasons we got relegated. Just bizarre that Pidge is picked out for criticism when he was the best we had.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott said: Well, they were, weren't they? That's why we got relegated. I still shudder at that City prick Keith Curle playing Alan Sheehan 10 yards behind every other defender in some games last season... Fucking hell forgot about that shit show that we had to witness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeP said: Just bizarre that Pidge is picked out for criticism when he was the best we had.. 1st 3 months of the season he was the worst player in the side...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, Clifford said: 1st 3 months of the season he was the worst player in the side...... Course he was. Blythe, Cisse, Diarra, Fage and Jameson all put him to shame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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