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We're in for a couple of Chesterfield players...

Wasn’t impressed with him today.

Yep. And then if they get relegated 2 years later a la Sutton - back to square one with no income from the pitch.

Yes they do. Sutton did it I think, not a great investment as it turned out

It's really not easy for Mellon.Brian Clough is a prime example. He got rid of Currie because he parked in his parking spot. Then Brian was destroyed at Leeds by player power. I prefer a manager who speaks his mind.It takes a lot of moving parts for a team to be successful but no.1 is players commitment, effort and loyalty cause we pay their wages.Bad apples in a team are a problem.If players are undermining the manager its not the managers fault.Players not performing,not trying and moaning should be dealt with.Ideally they should be sacked but as has been said many times agents and contracts limit the managers ability to respond to the situation especially when half your team was obtained by your previous numpty manager.Mellon needs a chance to sort us out. Hopefully all the bits of the jigsaw will fall into place next year.Till then he and the owners need our support.

You have to admit, the 1st team coach should show an interest in the youth players coming through and there’s really no substitute for seeing them in the flesh so to speak. I’ve heard loads of reports from BP1960 throughout the season but Saturday was the 1st time I’d seen them for myself and I have to admit to being impressed by 3 or 4 of them. The No2, No4, No6, and No9, could have played some part in the last game or been on the bench. They are far more skilful confident & mobile than some of our regulars. It’s a big step up admittedly, but it would surely have been a worthwhile exercise and a reward for having a good season.

Zac Emerson on the bench yesterday for Blackpool at Reading. Still only 19. If he's available on loan next season could be bring some youth and pace to the front line

I'm coming round to the idea that whatever happens Mellon will need till this time next year to be properly judged, I know that's a swing in my opinion and some might say that's fickle but some things are stacking up differently for me now, I've been critical of managers in the past when really they took the shit for bad owners and I'm of the opinion now that there is little point gunning for Mellon because our problems run deeper. None of us really care about styles of play and tactics if the results are good and I personally feel Mellon with half a dozen solid signings can deliver that and in this situation we shouldn't be scrutinizing the manager but looking at the deeper issues and the culture that exists which iI have a feeling he's determined to worm out, dirty washing is out now and some of these players no longer have anywhere to hide and if that takes another month, six months or a year to correct then so be it I say. I'm going to back him after the news broken by Suzanne last week, short of a club statement it answered many of my concerns and gave me an insight in to where the club is at. I think we've hit rock bottom and now I feel the only way is up and I think Mellon has the balls and personality to put the foundations in place even if I don't always agree with everything he does. I suppose I'm coming round to the idea of trusting the process.

It seems unless the club listen to you, it will never be good enough!

Not good enough, a manager should see players for himself. Maybe that was the problem this season with his own signings he can't have seen as they hadn't played for a long time or had been recommended by agents. You need to look at the current form not past form.

There might be less logic but there's still some. Unless we just chuck money at ii

No, I said the other day - it’s not all of them. It would be silly to suggest it’s all of them. But Suzanne has already said quite a few been told to find new clubs. And that’s not Reid, Kurt, Nuttall, etc. It’s Hogan, Sheron and others. Maybe you and the others are right- They’ll be no hangover in mentality with players that have already failed, and everyone in the squad will buy into Mellon despite the fact he doesn’t rate a few, and they won’t talk to each other because he’s told them it’s his way or nothing.

That's surely not a senior coach/academy manager who invites youth team players to regularly train with the first team in full view of the senior manager and coach?

You keep implying that his words/actions can be taken by the squad to be him meaning all of them. I don’t think that’s the case with what he’s said. In fact he’s said a few times that he has good players who need others to come in and help them out.

They absolutely should. . . but players are out for themselves a lot of the time.

I’ve no issue there in principle. If he doesn’t want to play them, and it quickly becomes clear who is contracted but not fancied - then fine. But it’s not that simple is it. He banished Reid- and Kitching decided he didn’t want to play football anymore. Fine- banish Kitching, and sign a new left back. Kitching then becomes Reid this season- there. . but never playing. . . and the cycle starts again. Mellon is very much my way or fuck off. Fine. But he’s not at a club and situation to be able to do that. He needs to adapt for the greater good, to buy himself the time needed to finish the job. Just saying- right, everybody out- none of you are good enough Is never going to work. He needs to be a lot cuter in how deals with players instead being so black and white.

Equally they are paid professionals and if called on they should give their all. Prove their worth to new clubs or Mellon.

Look at it from a different angle. Had mellon kept it in house and no one outside the club were non the wiser, these unwanted bad apples get free reign to sit on the sidelines collecting their wedge. Now....everyone knows and there's no hiding if that's what they do. Yes reality is they can still do that, they have a contact but when mellon banishes them everyone knows why.

Lags- let me be absolutely crystal clear. The players are and have been a collective shambles. But you’re confusing siding with them and the reality of the situation. Mellon is telling us in a myriad of different ways- that he is stuck with these players. He’s bemoaning publicly he can’t move them on. He’s telling us he’s knows what good looks like and the contracted players aren’t that. He’s telling us the squad need an overhaul. Mellon doesn’t win the games. The players do. If you think that his diatribe will have no effect on current players still needed next season then fine, but I think he has shot himself in the foot. If this was remotely possible, I wouldn’t have a single problem with what he said. Let’s get rid of 36 players by hook or crook and let him mould it as he sees fit. But that isn’t the realty is it???? He has a lot of players, who he has slated but will still need because he can’t sack them all. He doesn’t want them there, but expects them to perform??? Doesn’t make any sense.

I think if you look at all the sides in the play offs they all do play abit differently but you could say they are sides which are worth more than the sum of their parts. We are probably the opposite of that. We all know recruitment wasn't the best this season, and if we've learned anything from that experience it is that you can't just throw money at the problem. So my hope is that we sign players that fit a certain style of play and that the jigsaw pieces all fit together. Looking at the attendances at the games we would have taken over some of these place, particularly when you saw the empty seats at Solihull and Barnet, and a play off game at BP would have probably come close to selling out (yeah I know some our players last season would have shrank in such circumstances but potentially its a huge advantage) plus we'd probably take double what Bromley or Solihull would take to Wembley so that would be like a home game in the circumstances. Obviously we want to go up automatically but you would think we'd have a 12th man advantage if we got to the play offs next season.

But, but, but...

You've made your mind up for next season and mellon, that's your perogative. I just hope there's more who will give a clean slate than your stance. What I don't understand is that you appear to side with the very bad apple players to disrupt next season like they did this. I'd rather drive them out, if that means garden leave so be it if they refuse to find another club where they maybe happy. Lets be perfectly clear, only 2 managers will be successful next season, so the odds are stacked in your favour when you state let's see who's right.

Unfortunately, you are confusing the real world employment market with the football equivalent. There is not much that is logical about the latter.

Completely disagree. If a prospective target watches it and is put off, he's not the mentally tough character we need for next season - see the excellent post by a Wealdstone fan on another thread. 100% agree with this.

Really not arsed who goes up. I’m not in a rush to go back to either club. thought Alty looked tidy for a period in the first half but they were simply outmuscled by Bromley, who ultimately had more nous. It’ll cost Bromley a lot of money having to rip up that 4G pitch of theirs. Do they have to do that and relay a new one over the summer if they win the final?