Stevie_J Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Not sure on that. From my experience it was a vocal minority that didn't want him. Personally, I know around 100 Latics fans, when it was first announced only a couple wanted him. But as time went on and :censored: like milliband started telling us what to do, that swung massively and only a couple still didnt want him. I thought the timing of Ched turning us down was bizarre as the tide was definatley turning. Ah well, we will be ruing it when his conviction is quashed and he signs for a bigger club. Ched turning us down? When his conviction is quashed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Not sure on that. From my experience it was a vocal minority that didn't want him. Personally, I know around 100 Latics fans, when it was first announced only a couple wanted him. But as time went on and :censored: like milliband started telling us what to do, that swung massively and only a couple still didnt want him. I thought the timing of Ched turning us down was bizarre as the tide was definatley turning. Ah well, we will be ruing it when his conviction is quashed and he signs for a bigger club. The official fans forums poll left it in little doubt for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Dear all Don't forget the Trust Oldham Fans meeting tonight at the Laticzone at 7.15pm. The new commercial manager and Clubs fans liaison officer will be there too Thanks everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I had intended to attend this but am now unable to which is a shame. More out of a curiosity to see what is suggested and to express displeasure at how matters have been conducted in particular in recent months than anything else. I hope it is productive, well attended and matters can be moved forward. If a meeting can be arranged for a match day then I do think it would generate a far better turnout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Sorry you cant be there JSS, should be a askthetrust.......tweetthetrust live feed tonight too Hoping next time we can source a match day one out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brierleys555 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 that was a really good meeting tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Thanks Brierleys555 and it was good to see you again, didn't get chance to say goodbye as that Kevin is stalking me...heheh It's small steps but we want it get it right, even if it's just you've met the trust committee team and have a bit more confidence that we are human, we are trying to improve things and we need fans like yourself who can contribute too. Even if you can't contribute the time/attend a meeting that you can still have an outlet for your thoughts or be able to read up on or even log in live to a trust meeting. Wardle latic was posting live questions on the FB trust oldham page too about tonight and we hope to get tonight's meeting notes on the trust website quickly too...once I can decipher my own handwriting that is. Hope you got home safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forte_Baby Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Will second this, a very constructive meeting tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Will second this, a very constructive meeting tonight. Hello Forte, sorry I didn't get chance to introduce myself, I was the one making notes in the white fleece, purple jacket with frost bitten cheeks.heheh And thank you for posting a comment, I know we are working towards improving things and I hope it gives you a bit of confidence that with fans help, we can make the trust better going forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Any minutes for this yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Underdog took notes. She'll post them on here i'm sure when she's typed them up. No minutes as such as it was an open forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Trust fans meeting 02.02.15. At the laticZone 7.15pm In attendance from the Trust: Diane Mellor, Simon Colebrook, Simon Brook, Rick Attwood, Chris Hill & Tracy Wright In attendance from the club: Jenny Warburton & Mark Moisley Guest: Paul Whithead Fans: Jan Curtis, A Binns, M.Lund, B.Griffiths, J.Griffiths, E. Winterbottom, J.Winterbottom, Kevin Birkett, Martin Brierley, Tom ODea, Will Gough, Mark Harrington and Trevor Varley Welcome by Simon Brooke to the fans, guest from the club and Paul Whitehead. A whos who on the trust committee and then opened the question and answer session Q) On the main stand by fan Martin Brierley A) Confirmed it is on time. The finances are in place. Bars have been re-designed. Paul & Jenny have been fact finding and viewing other clubs facilities. What works/doesnt Work There will be disabled facilities covered by the Green guide Mark Moisley confirmed the club needs this soon Paul Whitehead confirmed the final plans to be drawn after speaking to commercial partners and then approved Official site there used to be blogs/updates/photos and they seem to have stopped. Can we look at getting them going again New stand capacity is 2,600 Corporate boxes are 10 Q) How do we attract the fans back? By fan Mark Club lost fans when the lookers stand was demolished, lost its family engagement area, commercial limitations etc. The fans engagement has been poor. Mark Moisley agrees about fan engagement and at the last home match, decided to go around the stands, meet the fans and take in the match day experience and has ideas on improvement. Certainly the new stand will help too Cont. Q) Fan Facilities home and away A) Jenny Warburton confirmed that her role as fans liaison is help log, record and find resolutions for fans and can be contacted to log this. Fan Janet Winterbottom, mentioned the state of the ladies toilets in the main stand. Jenny responded that she creates maintenance list after every game from fans input. But there is a budget Will Gough and other fans raised the away issues, specifically at Fleetwood where viewing was poor and why where not purchasers informed of restricted views etc. Jenny apologised and explained how usually the good tickets go on sale first. She has though, received complaints and fans captured photos of the views and these are logged by the club, and then forwarded to the relevant club of feedback. Jennys response time from first contact to response is two weeks and they were reported. Q) Fan Suggestions from Tom ODea, Can we look at organising events pre/post match like BBQ in a temporary marquee on little Wembley for the short term? A) Yes we are looking at sourcing/sorting something out, again the new stand will help Q) Safe standing? A) Paul Whitehead explained the club history and laws with regards to safe standing and why it is not an option for the club at the moment. But if the law changes who knows Q) Commercial products lack of them A) Jenny Confirmed that merchandise franchise is owned by Sports.direct. Jenny admitted there has been teething problems with merchandise and how to /where to buy them. Suggestions are passed onto Sports direct and the club are hoping to have a meeting with them W/C 05.02.15 Q) Smoking area in the ground, it happens at other why no BP? A) Its not an option and its also not allowed as per the football regulations Q) Can we look at seating/picnic tables at the back of the RRE? A) Yes the club can Q) How can we the fans help promote the club? A) Can we look at offers for fans to recruit friends to watch us, EG Bring a friend, bring 10 friends Q) Lapsed Season ticket holders are the club looking at ways to get them back A) Yes the new CRM the club have in place will help with this. The club are still cleansing the data in order to do this Q) Trust/club and AGM coming up. How are fans/ST holders being notified? A) Jenny confirmed that the clubs CRM will help with this. It has been installed but the cleansing of the data so it accurate, is still ongoing. Both Jenny form the club and Simon B from the trust are working to get this resolved quickly. The trust does have other alternative ways of contacting fans if this is not ready, Advert in the local press, the official club and Trust website, advert in the programme, presence on match days too. Q) End of season marketing A) Look at something to thank Season ticket holders, look at family days like the Rugby days. The club will look into this Cont. Q) What are we doing to encourage younger generation? A) We use to be in schools, gave tickets away. The club will look into this Q) Strike it lucky no sellers on last Saturdays home game against Notts County. A) Jenny Apologised as she had a number of staff who could not attend the match. Jan (fan) works the turnstyles and suggested that maybe turnstyle holders or programme sellers sell them too. Club to look into this End of club input, Jenny, Paul and Mark left and the Trust and fans thanked them for their time. Next part of the meeting was Trust. Over view from Simon Brook, committee member ___________________________________________________________________________ Simon confirmed that the Trust will now have more fans only meetings and the club will send representation too Confirmation that Barry Owen has resigned from Trust Oldham Acknowledgement that communication by the Trust has been poor but we are working on this as we are all volunteers. Use of social media more, advert in programme/Chronicle, announcements on clubs official site too Confirmation that the AGM is in April; Now is the time to remould and revamp the trust Request for more volunteers, specific job roles to be announced but no request will be turned down Q) Mr Winterbottom advised that as a Season ticket holder, he did not receive the initial letter with regards to his voting rights. A) Simon and Rick confirmed that the club were to issue these on collection/postage of season tickets and to check, Rick personally contacted approx. 20 fans to see if this was done and we are confident that about 90% of fans were advised. We can only apologise that Mr Winterbottom did not get his letter. Simon confirmed that a copy was posted on the trust official website With regards to contacting ST about the up and coming AGM, as reported earlier once the club has cleansed the CRM data, all ST will be contacted. There will also be a bulletin on the official club site, Trust site, in the programme and Chronicle too Q) AGM is 8wks off Fan Mr Winterbottom has asked how the voting works A) Accounts have to be done first and Simon C confirmed the books are in for auditing. The trust has to give 14 Days notice to be given to all Trust members, the club will contact all ST once the data has been cleansed. If we are notified by the club this cannot be done then the Trust will put announcement on the clubs official site, the Trust official site, the programme and local press. Looking at having a match day presence too Q) AGM Nominations how does this work? A) members serve time on the Trust board to see how things work/working relationship with the club. From this the Chairperson is then nominated. Diane Gave an overview of the trust history, evolution and future plan that the chairperson serves no more than two terms as Chair. Cont. Q) Appeal from the Trust. Simon B confirmed that the trust are looking for volunteers to help and its not necessary that you have to be local based either. The trust are looking for specific roles at this time but all help will be looked at. Roles are: A) Media, Membership secretary, Newlsetter Editor, Events people and Fundrisers. These will all be advertised on the Official site before the AGM as it gives people the opportunity to join the committee team Q) How do we engage the youth, U16s to get involved in the Trust Fan Tom ODea A) Simon C said we had looked Q) Trust meetings for fans, more frequent A) Once the new stand is open the trust will be looking at match day sessions as well as meetings every two months. Short term, we will be using the Latic Zone. Q) Clarity on Trust role with the Club A) Purpose, strategy..This is ongoing with the trust and will be discussed at out next meeting on 16th Feb Q) Trust finances. Where has the money gone? A) Rick and Simon C, confirmed that £200K went on a seat on the board with cat b shares, Some went on to fund player Luke Beckett, £9k went on a tractor, some funds went on a community mini bus (that has since been put out of commission). The trust contribute approx £1k a month to help with club costs. Q) Can we look at boosting the funds? A) Fan Tom ODea suggested: To fund Playershare, Latics for Life, Events/family days and build a warchest Q) Clarity on the 3% Cat B shares. A) Diane explained the reason why they are Cat B is in relation to liability. If the club went bankrupt the Trust as others would be held accountable/costing. Meeting closed at 9.40pm, The trust thanked the fans who attended and the Laticzone people for the use of the room and the facilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
another fan Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Many thanks for the minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Bloody hell Chris I only emailed to the committee for approval at 5.40pm....well I bloody well hope I've got most things right/names etc before you posted it...heheh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Trust fans meeting 02.02.15. At the laticZone 7.15pm Q) Clarity on the 3% Cat B shares. A) Diane explained the reason why they are Cat B is in relation to liability. If the club went bankrupt the Trust as others would be held accountable/costing. The Shares are 3% cat B in a Limited Liability Company which cannot go Bankrupt-that is a 'personal' term. The Limited Company could be placed into Administration or it could face Voluntary or Compulsory Liquidation Proceedings or be placed in Receivership! May we be provided with clarification as to in what way the Trust could be held accountable/costing??? In my own view I do not think that the Trust could be liable/accountable It is not my understanding of the situation at all, perhaps Diane has been misinformed or the notes were incorrect? Edited February 9, 2015 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) The Shares are 3% cat B in a Limited Liability Company which cannot go Bankrupt-that is a 'personal' term. The Limited Company could be placed into Administration or it could face Voluntary or Compulsory Liquidation Proceedings or be placed in Receivership! May we be provided with clarification as to in what way the Trust could be held accountable/costing??? In my own view I do not think that the Trust could be liable/accountable It is not my understanding of the situation at all, perhaps Diane has been misinformed or the notes were incorrect? Probably my note taking Chaddy, apologies as I will kick Chris as I asked for these to approved of by the commitee of which, Diane is a member off and I'm sure would have corrected before publishment. I will though, seek clarification at the commitee meeting next week. As this does go over my head Thanks Edited February 9, 2015 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 The trust contribute approx £1k a month to help with club costs Would it be possible to have a general breakdown of where this money goes. And does the Trust have an surplus of £12k a year or more or is this coming from reserves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Would it be possible to have a general breakdown of where this money goes. And does the Trust have an surplus of £12k a year or more or is this coming from reserves? Would it be possible to have a general breakdown of where this money goes. And does the Trust have an surplus of £12k a year or more or is this coming from reserves? Again I will ask...and kick Chris twice now if I have wrote it down wrong...grrr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Would it be possible to have a general breakdown of where this money goes. And does the Trust have an surplus of £12k a year or more or is this coming from reserves? Is this Playershare money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 The Shares are 3% cat B in a Limited Liability Company which cannot go Bankrupt-that is a 'personal' term. The Limited Company could be placed into Administration or it could face Voluntary or Compulsory Liquidation Proceedings or be placed in Receivership! May we be provided with clarification as to in what way the Trust could be held accountable/costing??? In my own view I do not think that the Trust could be liable/accountable It is not my understanding of the situation at all, perhaps Diane has been misinformed or the notes were incorrect? I think it's just poor wording - stick the following at the end of the final sentence " - if they held cat A shares". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Playershare has a seperate bank account. My apologies tracy. Got a bit keen with the notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I think it's just poor wording - stick the following at the end of the final sentence " - if they held cat A shares". That is how I understood it and that is why I explained that it is incorrect! Shareholders in a Limited Company have limited Liability, nothing more! I am querying Diane's supposed interpretation of the situation and/or the notes. Why do we (the Trust) hold B shares and not A shares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 That is how I understood it and that is why I explained that it is incorrect! Shareholders in a Limited Company have limited Liability, nothing more! I am querying Diane's supposed interpretation of the situation and/or the notes. Why do we (the Trust) hold B shares and not A shares? It was the legal advice given when the trust was formed. I wasn't around the trust then so i personally can't go further than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Im still going to kick Chris under the table after I clarify the points again chaps. Grrrrrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brierleys555 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 can anyone tell me where last nights trust meeting was advertised or was it hush hush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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