NewBlue Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Same team as last night? Does Mckay get back in? Mclaughlin get a run out? Walsall have a lot of attacking talent. Burgess won't be able to be clumsy against the likes of Oztumer. Penalty could be on the cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) Same team as last night? Does Mckay get back in? Mclaughlin get a run out? Walsall have a lot of attacking talent. Burgess won't be able to be clumsy against the likes of Oztumer. Penalty could be on the cards. Burgess has conceded one penalty so he's forever clumsy? Edmondson conceded one a minute after coming on against Preston. Is he therefore going to do that every time he comes on? I'd have to keep a winning side but think SR may change it and bring Mackay back. Croft has to start ahead of the new boy based on last night doesn't he. His place to lose? Edited August 10, 2016 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Be difficult to change a winning team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share Posted August 10, 2016 Burgess has conceded one penalty so he's forever clumsy? Edmondson conceded one a minute after coming on against Preston. Is he therefore going to do that every time he comes on? I'd have to keep a winning side but think SR may change it and bring Mackay back. Croft has to start ahead of the new boy based on last night doesn't he. His place to lose? He looks clumsy. Could've given one away last night too. At his height against someone over a foot smaller than him I'd say making a dodgy challenge is very possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Burgess has conceded one penalty so he's forever clumsy? Edmondson conceded one a minute after coming on against Preston. Is he therefore going to do that every time he comes on? I'd have to keep a winning side but think SR may change it and bring Mackay back. Croft has to start ahead of the new boy based on last night doesn't he. His place to lose? On Burgess, he's conceded two including preseason games and I've seen him get away with two needless tugs where the ref should have pointed to the spot. I did like the free kick routine last night where he looked like he was going to take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-latic Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I thought the penalty incident aside, Burgess had a decent game, looked especially strong in the air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Can't say I've been really impressed with Burgess. Makes me nervous with the challenges that have/ should've lead to penalties and wanted an age on the ball before getting closed down. Maybe he'll get to grips with it but I think we've got to watch him get a few more mistakes out of his system before he goes back to Fulham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) On Burgess, he's conceded two including preseason games and I've seen him get away with two needless tugs where the ref should have pointed to the spot. I did like the free kick routine last night where he looked like he was going to take it. Edmondson conceded in pre-season not Burgess if its the Preston match you are referring to. I wasn't at the game, I watched it on PNE world & they made a huge deal about George having been on the pitch for Clarke less than 2 minutes. Edited August 10, 2016 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishblue Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Banks or Croft for Mantock is the only change for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 From what I saw against Millwall, Burgess has the raw materials to be a very good centre back. It was just that he had a shocker that day. Most young centre backs will make their fair share of mistakes and Burgess's mistakes were poor decision making. Something that can be fixed with the right coaching. Fingers crossed that we have the coaches that can help him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Burgess reminds me a little of the lad we had in loan from Coventry(?) who got sent off 10 mins into his debut.H e went on to good well at Cardiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSizeFitz Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Edmondson conceded in pre-season not Burgess if its the Preston match you are referring to. I wasn't at the game, I watched it on PNE world & they made a huge deal about George having been on the pitch for Clarke less than 2 minutes. http://www.pnefc.net/news/article/2016-17/oldham-athletic-pne-preston-north-end-match-report-3194930.aspx http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/match-report-latics-beaten-by-preston-north-end-3194790.aspx Both clubs' websites reckon it was Burgess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 http://www.pnefc.net/news/article/2016-17/oldham-athletic-pne-preston-north-end-match-report-3194930.aspx http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/match-report-latics-beaten-by-preston-north-end-3194790.aspx Both clubs' websites reckon it was Burgess... Like I said mate, not according to the commentators at the game & the camera guy that zoomed in on Edmundson, no replays at the time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetramfixer Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 could we be tied in with a loan deal (assuming Burgess is on loan - it's hard to keep up!) that means he's free to us or relatively cheap as long as we play/start him? .. if so that could dictate who partners Clarke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) could we be tied in with a loan deal (assuming Burgess is on loan - it's hard to keep up!) that means he's free to us or relatively cheap as long as we play/start him? .. if so that could dictate who partners Clarke!If other clubs are dictating who we play then we might as well give up! He will be on loan until January & then Fulham can extend or recall him no matter how many times he plays. Edited August 10, 2016 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 If other clubs are dictating who we play then we might as well give up! He will be on loan until January & then Fulham can extend or recall him no matter how many times he plays. As a deal it makes no sense. Forced into playing someone sub standard (losing goals/points) because they're free at the expense of someone who you're paying a wage to anyway. Don't buy it. My guess is Robinson rates him, feels that he'll come good soon and backs his judgement over the owtb experts. (See the case of the people vs Liam Kelly c2014) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 The Millwall pen aside Burgess was no worse than most down there and was absolutely fine last night. Surely with masses of improvement to come as he and his team-mates settle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Burgess has conceded one penalty so he's forever clumsy? Edmondson conceded one a minute after coming on against Preston. Is he therefore going to do that every time he comes on? I'd have to keep a winning side but think SR may change it and bring Mackay back. Croft has to start ahead of the new boy based on last night doesn't he. His place to lose? Edmondson gave away a penalty against Everton this evening... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Edmondson gave away a penalty against Everton this evening... Young defenders will make mistakes....clumsy bugger! I just hope he always plays against strikers his own size, not smaller or it could happen alot ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Burgess reminds me a little of the lad we had in loan from Coventry(?) who got sent off 10 mins into his debut.H e went on to good well at Cardiff. Ben Turner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Ben Turner. That's him! Burgess possibly needs to bulk up a little as Turner did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCM35 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 If it ain't broke don't fix it... That being said how long is Jamie Reckord out for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Edmondson gave away a penalty against Everton this evening... Missed a pen too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 If it ain't broke don't fix it... That being said how long is Jamie Reckord out for? Should be back for saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCM35 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Should be back for saturday Wilson on the bench then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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