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  1. With respect I believe that must have been 6-1 on 23 Oct 1961 as that was the only time during Bobby Johnstone’s era we played them in the tournament. Either way it was still a big defeat.
  2. Depends on the season. It was agreed in 62/3 , according to “The Lancashire Cup- A Complete Record” , that “First and second Division clubs should play a Central League strength side or stronger, while third and fourth division clubs were expected to field their full strength team”. In earlier seasons, and it began in 1880, teams selections varied and it should be remembered that for many years it was a prestigious trophy to win. Apparently it wasn’t until 1930/1 that official attendances were kept . Latics’ first home game with official crowds was a 2nd round replay on Monday afternoon, Oct 12 1931. We beat Wigan Borough in a replay, 4-0 in front of 1179. it’s interesting how closely fought some matches were - the 38/9 tie between Latics and Rochdale went to two replays, each with extra time, before we won . Some of the older ones of us will remember the 1971 final , again against Dale. Played at Spotland , Latics lost 1-2 with a crowd of 7003. It’s a competition that had some important years but now is very much seen as peripheral ....with crowds to match.
  3. Fantasy Football Edward Couzens-Lake Legends Publishing, 2012 Hardback, 220pp, £19.99 The first season of the Premier League was 1992/3 and, despite the best efforts of Sky, it was by no means a dramatically different animal than the old Div 1. Indeed, looking back, it seems quite a restrained change, with more, though still relatively limited tv coverage, and commentators and pundits still recognising that football wasn’t invented by its arrival. The hegemony of the handful of big clubs hadn’t become established meaning there was still hope for others, if not of winning the league at least being challengers. In fact, 4 out of the top 5 at the end of the season are no longer in the top flight (extending the comparison, thirteen of the original twenty-two teams are no longer there). This book looks at the very successful season of one of the outsiders, “from the mouths of real Norwich City heroes” as the subtitle proclaims. It hadn’t looked as though the campaign was going to be a delight. Only just escaping relegation the season before, a new manager in place, and terrace hero and goal scorer Robert Fleck having been sold, there wasn’t a great deal of expectation. The author has written eight books on the Canaries and knows the club both as an observer and supporter. He has excellently conveyed the moods of fans and that of the pundits and journalists. The former, hopeful but not necessarily optimistic, the latter almost wholly dismissive of the club from the wilds of East Anglia. This despite City having had 17 of the previous 20 seasons in the top flight and qualifying for Europe on three occasions. The season, however, had its own story to tell. This isn’t a blow by blow, match by match account. It’s a well-structured look, with many interviews, at the people associated, whether its those departed such as Fleck or the Club Secretary, numerous players, both regulars and understudies, and journalists that covered the club. All set to the background of the changing nature of football, on and off the field. The personal recollections and hindsight of those involved do make a rounded and fascinating story of one club at the very start of the Premier League. It’s that level of story in that there’s a “happy ending” (plot spoiler – Norwich finished third), but also because, despite the overwhelming affection the author has for Norwich, he can set eveeything in a wider context, relevant to readers whoever they support. More than 20 years on it may now feel like a fantasy that “smaller” clubs could be successful in the modern environment but having fantasies is surely what supporters of such clubs must have.
  4. Neither should be confused with TOASTY . The Oldham Athletic Supporters Trust (York)
  5. There won’t be a full house by any stretch of the imagination. Just get a ticket from Hampton .
  6. At least 10 northern ex league I think halifax barrow hartlepool workington chesterfield southport york wrexham gateshead stockport
  7. Burnley FC On This Day Philip Bird Pitch Publishing 2018 Hardback 250pp £14.99 To state the blindingly obvious, something happens every day. Events that range from the momentous to the seemingly trivial. To anyone with a passion, or at least a deep interest, then even the apparently trifling can have a significance. Thus, for a club supporter, a book that presents a 365-day compilation of facts and figures, stories and happenings, can be a treasure trove. So, for Burnley fans this is probably a diary of delights. The “On This Day” feature began in the Clarets’ programme in 2008 and continues to the present. Such is the nature of the football season , however, that such a series will never cover much of the summer months and this volume not only rectifies that but expands and introduces much more from the rest of the year. Some of the entries will, no doubt, be well ingrained in the minds of the Turf Moor faithful whilst others have been dug out from repositories of the forgotten or never noticed! May 9th is a classic case of the former as it was on that day in 1987 that Burnley won the last game of the season against Orient to stay in the Football League, after being 92nd when the game kicked off. On the other side of the coin of memorability, May 8th is remembered for a 2-1 victory over Walsall in 1982. Maybe not April Fools Day, but the day after, April 2nd in 1983, saw Burnley striker Terry Donovan leave the Turf Moor pitch with hypothermia. Manager Frank Casper said, “Jimmy Holland had to undress him and carry him into the bath”. A date to remember for both Donovan and Holland perhaps. Another very unusual day was August 22nd when early in the season in 1968, manager Stan Ternent sacked four players giving a blunt opinion on Michael Williams that “he will never win the fans over and will not play for Burnley again”. Burnley’s history is a long one, the club was a founder member of the Football League in 1888, and perhaps the book would have been a more comprehensive read if a greater number of mentions were of earlier days. The club’s first ever Football League game was on Sept 8th, 1888 but the date is recalled for matches against WBA in 1951 and Rotherham in 2001. It’s still a fascinating volume for anyone who has an affinity with the Clarets, and, at 250 pages, obviously full of memories and notable moments.
  8. Well, Gardner is the best footballer in the division. According to “Lord”Sheridan https://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/sport/16966497.sheridan-on-carlisle-victory-at-boundary-park/
  9. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6240983/Oldham-players-threaten-strike-action-unpaid-wages.html
  10. He's around and involved https://mobile.twitter.com/oact/status/1047822582634958848
  11. It seems fans of another club are unhappy with recent performances too https://mobile.twitter.com/yourmcfc/status/1047551615983652864
  12. Because Cotterill is making a significant difference at .... Where was it he was snapped up by?
  13. No keeper? Asking a lot of the defence that .
  14. I understand where he’s coming from. If my attitude is criticised I usually feel like breaking a colleague’s leg too.
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