c.hill12 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 here's how sky bet see our league finishing according to odds. Let's hope they are wrong 1 huddersfield 11/2 2 sheff wed 11/2 3 preston 6/1 4 sheff utd 6/1 5 charlton 10/1 6 scunthorpe 12/1 7 mk 16/1 8 bournmouthe 18/1 9 orient 25/1 10 chesterfield 25/1 11 brentford 25/1 12 carlisle 25/1 13 col u 25/1 14 exeter 33/1 15 bury 33/1 16 dale 33/1 17 notts 33/1 18 wycombe 40/1 19 stevenage 40/1 20 trannies 40/1 21 walsall 50/1 22 latics 50/1 23 yeovil 66/1 24 hartlepool 66/1 sky bet odds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadam Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 They are wrong they have put the big teams at the top. I can't see either of the Sheffield clubs in the top 6. Although if I was a beting man I would put a tenner on MK Dons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I see Bury and Rochdale are shorter prices than Latics. Probably about right in that respect. Preston and both the Sheffield clubs look to short in price to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemathieson Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I reckon worth a fiver on promotion at 18/1, like I have done the last 14 years.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I wouldn't like to comment on the bottom of their predicted league, but I can't see the top turning out like that. Sheffield Wednesday and Huddersfield will finish in the play-offs at best and there's usually a few suprises - bet no one fancied Brighton and Bournemouth to do well last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedOwl Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 thats embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Do they do anti-relegation odds, as I don't think there's a cat in hells chance of Hartlepool going down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Do they do anti-relegation odds, as I don't think there's a cat in hells chance of Hartlepool going down? Betfair! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I remember saying last year that I didn't think there was much chance of Rochdale finishing above us, I couldn't have been more wrong as they finished very comfortably well above us. Glad I didn't have a bet. I won't be saying the same about Rochdale or Bury this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latic12345 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) here's how sky bet see our league finishing according to odds. Let's hope they are wrong 1 huddersfield 11/2 2 sheff wed 11/2 3 preston 6/1 4 sheff utd 6/1 5 charlton 10/1 6 scunthorpe 12/1 7 mk 16/1 8 bournmouthe 18/1 9 orient 25/1 10 chesterfield 25/1 11 brentford 25/1 12 carlisle 25/1 13 col u 25/1 14 exeter 33/1 15 bury 33/1 16 dale 33/1 17 notts 33/1 18 wycombe 40/1 19 stevenage 40/1 20 trannies 40/1 21 walsall 50/1 22 latics 50/1 23 yeovil 66/1 24 hartlepool 66/1 sky bet odds That's not really a fair representation is it? They're odds to win the league which are based on the probability of the team winning the league. That's completely different to the probability Oldham will finish 22nd, be relegated, finish mid table etc. Each will influence the other, but because we are 22nd favourites for the title doesnt necessarily mean that we are 3rd favourites for relegation (we may well be but this will conincidence between the two probabilities not the inverse of each other). I'll stop geeking out now... statistically speaking. Edited June 15, 2011 by latic12345 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleetwood Blue Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) 1 huddersfield 11/2 2 sheff wed 11/2 3 preston 6/1 4 sheff utd 6/1 5 charlton 10/1 6 scunthorpe 12/1 7 mk 16/1 8 bournmouthe 18/1 9 orient 25/1 10 chesterfield 25/1 11 brentford 25/1 12 carlisle 25/1 13 col u 25/1 14 exeter 33/1 15 bury 33/1 16 dale 33/1 17 notts 33/1 18 wycombe 40/1 19 stevenage 40/1 20 trannies 40/1 21 walsall 50/1 22 latics 50/1 23 yeovil 66/1 24 hartlepool 66/1 We will finish above all of the teams underlined, but i think that leaves us in about 13th place. Edited June 15, 2011 by fleetwood Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I'd take 20th now, never mind 13th. That seems very optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 That's not really a fair representation is it? They're odds to win the league which are based on the probability of the team winning the league. That's completely different to the probability Oldham will finish 22nd, be relegated, finish mid table etc. Each will influence the other, but because we are 22nd favourites for the title doesnt necessarily mean that we are 3rd favourites for relegation (we may well be but this will conincidence between the two probabilities not the inverse of each other). I'll stop geeking out now... statistically speaking. i understand that. that's why the league table bit in the title is in quote marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy_Fent Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) they always fancy the bigger clubs and the Southern based clubs and they always get it wrong, same with the media Edited June 15, 2011 by Tommy_Fent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Bookies odds are a combination of things- the probability of winning and the amount of bets they will take. I can't see Hartlepool going down but they are joint favourites (if you assume the reverse but that's not strictly accurate). This is because 'Pool had a season not too disimilar to ours and haven't got a big fan base. There is a reason why to bet on England winning the world cup you get say 10/1 in the UK online, in bookies you will probably get better odds in the Celtic countries, but if you go to a website or betting shop based in a different country you can get say 14/1 for the same competition. If the odds were purely based on probability of winning then the order would be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I reckon worth a fiver on promotion at 18/1, like I have done the last 14 years.... Youve got 3 more years to potentially still make a long term profit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 they always fancy the bigger clubs and the Southern based clubs and they always get it wrong, same with the media Brighton and Southampton couldnt be much further south, and Peterborough is hardly north? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 1 huddersfield 11/2 2 sheff wed 11/2 3 preston 6/1 4 sheff utd 6/1 5 charlton 10/1 6 scunthorpe 12/1 7 mk 16/1 8 bournmouthe 18/1 9 orient 25/1 10 chesterfield 25/1 11 brentford 25/1 12 carlisle 25/1 13 col u 25/1 14 exeter 33/1 15 bury 33/1 16 dale 33/1 17 notts 33/1 18 wycombe 40/1 19 stevenage 40/1 20 trannies 40/1 21 walsall 50/1 22 latics 50/1 23 yeovil 66/1 24 hartlepool 66/1 We will finish above all of the teams underlined, but i think that leaves us in about 13th place. Tenner says we won't finish above all of those teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 Brighton and Southampton couldnt be much further south, and Peterborough is hardly north? the bookies didn't have brighton among the favourites though did they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) Thought ut would be interesting to find last years bookies prediction. This one was taken fromt he bookies at the time though it is beleived bookies odds last year THere actual postion diference is on the left SO know they don;t have a bad success rate, say 50% but have one or two miles out, and I would not follow them on who gets relegated! -1 Southampton 9/4 -13 Sheff Wed 11/2 0 Huddersfield 8/1 0 Peterborough 11/1 -7 Charlton 12/1 -18 Swindon 14/1 +7 Brighton 14/1 -16 Plymouth 16/1 -10 Notts County 25/1 +5 Milton Keynes Dons 33/1 -1 Colchester 33/1 Bristol Rovers 33/1 +1 Brentford 40/1 +1 Carlisle 66/1 -4 Tranmere 66/1 -2 Oldham 80/1 +9 Leyton Orient 80/1 +1 Hartlepool 80/1 +10 Rochdale 80/1 0 Walsall 100/1 +13 Exeter 100/1 +16 Bournemouth 100/1 +9 Yeovil 100/1 +3 Dag & Red 100/1 Edited June 16, 2011 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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