oafc1955 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Is the move for this guy completely dead......the last I heard he was back in Portugal and Dickov was waiting to hear from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Yes, the deal's dead - wanted his wages net as in he wanted to pay nicht tax... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2uptop Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Listening to Dickov's interview on player I'd say yeah pretty much. Dickov said that a wage had been agreed in Portugal after he'd impressed whilst training with us over there. He came to the club for a week or so to see how he could cope playing over here. Anyway when it came to signing he "moved the goalposts" with what he wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Yes, the deal's dead - wanted his wages net as in he wanted to pay nicht tax... If the club really wanted him they could have told him to set-up a limited company and they could pay his wages into that which would mean a business to business transfer which is taxed at 10%, or something similar. That's how Yaya Toure and the like get paid at City and they pay a fraction of the tax they should do. But frankly, if a professional footballer and their agent(s) don't know how reduce their tax bill legally more fool them, it's not as if that sort of thing hasn't been newsworthy for the last few years. I'm quite glad the club decided not to bother with him though, if he wanted to pay as little tax as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Isn't that the arrangement that has got Rangers in a bit of bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Heck C-Beck Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Shame it hasn't worked out as he looked a good player, but I guess it is always going to happen from time to time in our current financial situation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 If the club really wanted him they could have told him to set-up a limited company and they could pay his wages into that which would mean a business to business transfer which is taxed at 10%, or something similar. That's how Yaya Toure and the like get paid at City and they pay a fraction of the tax they should do. But frankly, if a professional footballer and their agent(s) don't know how reduce their tax bill legally more fool them, it's not as if that sort of thing hasn't been newsworthy for the last few years. I'm quite glad the club decided not to bother with him though, if he wanted to pay as little tax as possible. My understanding was he'd agreed a deal then turned round & said he meant that's what he wanted AFTER tax not gross. He'd still be paying tax. Most foreign players want this due to our complicated tax system I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 My understanding was he'd agreed a deal then turned round & said he meant that's what he wanted AFTER tax not gross. He'd still be paying tax. Most foreign players want this due to our complicated tax system I believe would love to know what figures he was talking. Shame really, his performance at Fleetwood excited my greatly. Won't do is any harm with Simpson nearing are main man tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 would love to know what figures he was talking. Shame really, his performance at Fleetwood excited my greatly. Won't do is any harm with Simpson nearing are main man tho. What do you reckon - about £2000 a week? Would that be about £3000 before tax & NI? If so, there might still be scope to meet him in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 What do you reckon - about £2000 a week? Would that be about £3000 before tax & NI? If so, there might still be scope to meet him in the middle. I'd sooner they spent that money on two players rather than on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 £2,000 a week net is around £175,000 a year gross. Hope he paid his own air fare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snookmeister Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Typical grabbing footballer. Let him rot without a club. Portuguese piss taker.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Very true bruv. Feeney was top earner a couple of years back on 100k a year!! That's got to go down as one of the worst signings ever!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 £2,000 a week net is around £175,000 a year gross. Hope he paid his own air fare. You're right. Closer to double than half as much again. Not out of the question if Kuqi was on £5k though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Kuqi 5k??!!! I reckon he was probably on 1200-1500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) would love to know what figures he was talking. Shame really, his performance at Fleetwood excited my greatly. Won't do is any harm with Simpson nearing are main man tho. all he did was play a few one - two's and run around, not one shot on target or an assist granted he had one assist against City....I didnt go so cant say how he performed there the way things are at the club, they should keep the power in any negotiations, the minute a player or agent starts demanding.....tell them to get :censored:ed I wont lose sleep over him going back to Portugal. Edited August 10, 2012 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Kuqi 5k??!!! I reckon he was probably on 1200-1500. I'm sure I'd heard £5k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 all he did was play a few one - two's and run around, not one shot on target or an assist granted he had one assist against City....I didnt go so cant say how he performed there the way things are at the club, they should keep the power in any negotiations, the minute a player or agent starts demanding.....tell them to get :censored:ed I wont lose sleep over him going back to Portugal. agree with most of this. Just thought he looked a handful. In fact he didnt look a handful he was. Still hes gone now and I'm looking forward to seeing some raw pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 agree with most of this. Just thought he looked a handful. In fact he didnt look a handful he was. Still hes gone now and I'm looking forward to seeing some raw pace. Tonk was a handful.....no goals though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Most foreign players want this due to our complicated tax system I believe That sounds like a bit of an excuse from them. Our tax system is hardly complex unless you've got investments and multiple sources of income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 That sounds like a bit of an excuse from them. Our tax system is hardly complex unless you've got investments and multiple sources of income. I believe it is compared to most countries. If not complex, certainly different. Don't think it's an excuse, moreso a way of comparing like with like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Clearly I'm too cynical! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 That sounds like a bit of an excuse from them. Our tax system is hardly complex unless you've got investments and multiple sources of income. Whilst I agree it's an excuse, if you lived in another country the non-Dom tax rate might be considerably less than our non-Dom tax rate and if we truly want the EPL to be the best league in the world, which is a debate for another time, then tax loopholes are required to be used. There is a significant loophole they've had to introduce for the Olympics which might be valid but I think only applied to money earned outside the UK- which was recently changed wrt taxable income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I'm sure I'd heard £5k Got told it was between £2.5k - £3k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shefflatic Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 well i heard kuqi was (alledgedly) paid £8k a week out of corney's own pocket - think its total bollocks to be honest but then again it would certainly explain why (as much as he tried every game) he was never dropped/rested aside from half a game at chesterfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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