brad Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 With the transfer window round the corner and we are set to make 80K plus from the Forrest game (even more if we progress) I want to know will we use that money for transfers. Would it depend on our league position (we are close to the play-offs) if we use this money or should we use it for next years budget. I would like to see us spend it on a certain Leon Clarke who Charlton don't want and we need a striker. So what are all your opinions on this. (I have excluded Wabara, Derbyshire and Baxter because two of them its too uncertain) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Not sure we'll get any extras. I think it's all about replacements if others leave / return to where the came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Reece Wabara isn't exactly nailed on either - he's been tweeting about his return date to various people.. is he happy here i wonder or is his head guiding him to bigger and better (face it, it's the Etihad over BP) places. Would love to keep all 3 and stick it out. Wouldn't want Leon Clarke either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 With the transfer window round the corner and we are set to make 80K plus from the Forrest game (even more if we progress) I want to know will we use that money for transfers. Would it depend on our league position (we are close to the play-offs) if we use this money or should we use it for next years budget. I would like to see us spend it on a certain Leon Clarke who Charlton don't want and we need a striker. So what are all your opinions on this. (I have excluded Wabara, Derbyshire and Baxter because two of them its too uncertain) Why in the world would we look to Clarke over Derbyshire?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) Why in the world would we look to Clarke over Derbyshire?! because he scores more goals? Edited December 10, 2012 by welshgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) because he scores more goals? Not if you count dodgy offside decisions! Derbyshire is a superior player to Clarke in so many ways. As an aside, Clarke has now played league games for no fewer than 14 clubs. There are 11 in my golf cart. Edited December 10, 2012 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Maybe having scored 11 goals in a side next to bottom would have something to do with it........I'm not saying he's the model pro, but he would get goals, of that I am absolutely certain. Just like Kuqi here last season, take his tally off the Scunthorpe stats and they would already be relegated!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 I don't think Derbyshire will stay here and Clarke is better then most strikers in this league anyway always scores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Historically derbs is better but that's all. Clarke was very impressive at bp this season. That said we probably haven't utilised derbs as well as we should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Not if you count dodgy offside decisions! Derbyshire is a superior player to Clarke in so many ways. As an aside, Clarke has now played league games for no fewer than 14 clubs. There are 11 in my golf cart. Golf Cart? Cart? Well la de dar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Golf Cart? Cart? Well la de dar Bag? Dunno. What do you call it? Cheapest set of clubs in Argos many years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Bag? Dunno. What do you call it? Cheapest set of clubs in Argos many years ago! I just use football sock to put my clubs in. Tie a bit of string around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Not if you count dodgy offside decisions! Derbyshire is a superior player to Clarke in so many ways. As an aside, Clarke has now played league games for no fewer than 14 clubs. There are 11 in my golf cart. 1.) He's only played for 13 clubs, he had 2 different spells at QPR. 2.) Golfers can carry 14 clubs in their BAG. 3.) I think Derbyshire is the better player but Clarke's goal scoring record at this level is impressive. 4.) Derbyshire is supposedly earning a lot more than Clarke, so a long-term loan is likely to be more expensive for Derbyshire. Value for money is an important consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) 1.) He's only played for 13 clubs, he had 2 different spells at QPR. 2.) Golfers can carry 14 clubs in their BAG. 3.) I think Derbyshire is the better player but Clarke's goal scoring record at this level is impressive. 4.) Derbyshire is supposedly earning a lot more than Clarke, so a long-term loan is likely to be more expensive for Derbyshire. Value for money is an important consideration. 1) Good spot. Although different nutters probably ran the club each time. 2) Yes, but my set of clubs were cheap. 3) Yes. 4) VFM wasn't part of the debate at that stage. Edited December 10, 2012 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) Maybe having scored 11 goals in a side next to bottom would have something to do with it........I'm not saying he's the model pro, but he would get goals, of that I am absolutely certain. Just like Kuqi here last season, take his tally off the Scunthorpe stats and they would already be relegated!!! I can tell you, without the need for an alledgedly, that he really, really isn't!! Edited December 10, 2012 by slystallone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Think we'll struggle to keep Derbyshire - Reckon bigger teams who can play a larger part of his wages will come in for him. However, I think location wise we're at an advantage as we are relatively close to Blackburn. If we can't keep him, then I'd look to Leon Clarke or Ryan Lowe who are probably more affordable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Didn't Prozac say that agreement to bring Derbyshire back for the season in January was already done? I rate Clarke, pretty sure we could have had him for 50k or thereabouts in the summer but went for Montano instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Think we'll struggle to keep Derbyshire - Reckon bigger teams who can play a larger part of his wages will come in for him. However, I think location wise we're at an advantage as we are relatively close to Blackburn. If we can't keep him, then I'd look to Leon Clarke or Ryan Lowe who are probably more affordable. I think once we renewed Derbyshire's loan our chances of getting Lowe went, and he's been scoring a fair few goals since he was made available for loan. I rate Lowe highly but I'd rather have Derbyshire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think once we renewed Derbyshire's loan our chances of getting Lowe went, and he's been scoring a fair few goals since he was made available for loan. I rate Lowe highly but I'd rather have Derbyshire. Was it due to not scoring much? Thought he wanted a move back up north but may be mistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Was it due to not scoring much? Thought he wanted a move back up north but may be mistaken Bit of both I think, he might still want to move back up north but he wasn't scoring many before and he is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) The way Derebyshire talks on LP you'd think he was our player. Maybe just the way he is or he's coming back already. Edited December 10, 2012 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The way Derebyshire talks on LP you'd think he was our player. Maybe just the way he is or he's coming back already. Part of the reason I think that Derbyshire and Baxter have been so good for us has been this. They have simply put 100% commitment into every match. Derbyshire could have taken his wages, sat on the bench at Forest and enjoyed an easy life but he grafts for a bottom half of the table League 1 club. Likewise with Baxter and his rejection of a new contract at Everton. You can tell it means a lot to them from their celebrations too. They're dedicated. Nobody can complain that each and every one of our players doesn't put expend every effort for their manager in each game. If we was to bring in Clarke, which I desperately hope we do, can we trust him to act the same way with his temprement that has plagued his career so far? I'd gamble on him. He's worked hard for Scunny, as the goals that he has given them proves. He'd be my only signing in the window, we've got cover in most positions and I'd only act if we lost any players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 He has respect for oldham always claps the fans off when ever he comes here I enjoyed him last time he was here. If he had a a bad attitude he would not keep on going to the lower end of league 1 (chesterfield and scunthorpe) I think that's a good attitude that he wants to be playing games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 You can tell it means a lot to them from their celebrations too. Ive noticed that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Clarke started like a house on fire during the first few minutes of the Scunny match. He looked like he was flicking a big pair of V's to Simon Corney after he baulked at the loan fee Charlton were looking for. Once he'd scored he settled down and didn't put too much pressure on us. I'd have him back, but only if attempts to keep Derbyshire fail. The guy strikes me as a true professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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