perfectOzblue Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 http://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/2014/news/former-weekly-editor-in-bid-to-clear-footballer-of-rape/ Quote
youngen Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Cant wait to see Harkins feeding him come October. Quote
tangerinedreams Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Cant wait to see Harkins feeding him come October. Had to read that twice! Quote
PlayItLivo Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Sheff United are apparently offering him a 3 year deal http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/jailed-soccer-ace-ched-evans-6981949 Quote
OldhamSheridan Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Well, his missus comes across as an understanding lady and not as a cheap money grabbing tart. Quote
rosa Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Well, his missus comes across as an understanding lady and not as a cheap money grabbing tart. Her loyalty's admirable. At best he :censored:ed a random stranger behind her back, at worst - and this, of course, is the version of events that a jury of his peers accepted - he raped a basically unconscious woman. Of course she wants to marry him, no man's perfect, eh? Quote
4froale Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 the thing I never got with this story is how come one of them got not guilty and the other guilty? Quote
jsslatic Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I'll stand corrected as I can't quite remember the details of the case that were reported but I think McDonald had picked her up in the bar where they were before and Evans had 'joined in' when they got back to the hotel. As the level of proof is beyond reasonable doubt the jury may have not thought it beyond reasonable doubt she hadn't consented with McDonald but that she had not consented to Evans. The problem with these things is that the press report a fraction of the story or simplify it so much that the small things these cases turn on can often be missed, especially in a story like this. Quote
deyres42 Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Football really is done if a rapist can just pick up his career where he left off. Quote
Ackey Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Football really is done if a rapist can just pick up his career where he left off. As opposed to convicted criminals who go back to work in any other job? Quote
deyres42 Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 As opposed to convicted criminals who go back to work in any other job? Not as black and white as that IMO, sport/entertainment can't really be compared to normal jobs. I'm not trying to be twee, but Stuart Hall isn't going to waltz back into his job if/when he is released, same as Kev Webster or Ken Barlow wouldn't have been seen in the Rovers again if they had been found guilty. Quote
leeslover Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I'd suggest that not many rapists get their old job back when they get out. Certainly not in high profile public facing jobs. I had no problem with Hughes but this crosses the line Quote
pukka Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I'd suggest that not many rapists get their old job back when they get out. Certainly not in high profile public facing jobs. I had no problem with Hughes but this crosses the line I had an equal as much of a problem with Hughes as Evans Quote
rudemedic Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I'd suggest that not many rapists get their old job back when they get out. Certainly not in high profile public facing jobs. I had no problem with Hughes but this crosses the line I had an equal as much of a problem with Hughes as Evans I probably have more of a problem with Hughes than Evans. However, both will have served their time and if someone is willing to employ them then I can see no reason why they can't go back to employment. Quote
blueatheart Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 I'd suggest that not many rapists get their old job back when they get out. Certainly not in high profile public facing jobs. I had no problem with Hughes but this crosses the line Devils Advocate What is the difference? /Devils Advocate Quote
leeslover Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Devils Advocate What is the difference? /Devils Advocate Intent. For all that he was a :censored:, Hughes never meant to kill anyone. You can hardly put what Evans did down to stupidity. Can you imagine mingling with him at a club event with your wife or daughter there? Quote
rosa Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Also, while I'm not going to applaud Hughes for belatedly taking responsibility for his actions, he did accept responsibility and apologised to the families of the people he killed (and no,that won't bring them back, but neither would jailing Hughes for life or publicly hanging him). Ched Evans is still protesting his innocence, which can only be adding to the distress of his victim. Employing someone who's shown no remorse for raping an unconscious woman in a high profile role would send out a horrible message. Quote
PlayItLivo Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Intent. For all that he was a :censored:, Hughes never meant to kill anyone. You can hardly put what Evans did down to stupidity. Can you imagine mingling with him at a club event with your wife or daughter there? Hughes drove off, leaving three people critically injured, one of whom died. Driving off wasn't stupid, it was a complete disregard for human life. Quote
leeslover Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Hughes drove off, leaving three people critically injured, one of whom died. Driving off wasn't stupid, it was a complete disregard for human life.I would put the running away as cowardice, fear, utter selfishness in a bad situation (of his own making). But he still didn't mean to hurt those people. Evans did choose to climb on top of an unconscious girl and :censored: her. Quite simply, I think Hughes id less bad morally here. Quote
leeslover Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Hughes drove off, leaving three people critically injured, one of whom died. Driving off wasn't stupid, it was a complete disregard for human life.I would put the running away as cowardice, fear, utter selfishness in a bad situation (of his own making). But he still didn't mean to hurt those people. Evans did choose to climb on top of an unconscious girl and :censored: her. Quite simply, I think Hughes is less bad morally here. Quote
dave_ragg1984 Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Hughes drove off, leaving three people critically injured, one of whom died. Driving off wasn't stupid, it was a complete disregard for human life. I'd say that getting into the drivers seat of a car after having a skinful is a complete disregard of human life, even before he's left people for dead. Quote
rudemedic Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 I'd say that getting into the drivers seat of a car after having a skinful is a complete disregard of human life, even before he's left people for dead. Thank you, someone else thinks the same as me. Quote
Stevie_J Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I tend to agree with rosa's point of view on this. Having said that, I'd rather Latics had never signed Hughes as I was never very comfortable with being associated with him. I would be pretty appalled if we were to sign a convicted rapist. But I'm sure Connor Brown would have something to say about that. Quote
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